Turning up the heat....Chemtrails helping or hurting?

[rlortie]

0 center, next!

[terry5732]

OK, I just finished following this whole thread.
DISGUSTED
Yes, of course I know there are dumb people. But to see someone believe SO strongly in something so absurd and not be locked away?
Yes rlortie they are simply water condensate from burning of hydrocarbons in an atmospheric temperature that is well below zero. These are the same CON-trails (condensate trails) you can see in pictures of high flying B-29s 60+ years ago. They are the same as we see here every winter behind automobiles when the temp drops.
We seriously need to reconsider having institutions to put these mentally challenged people in to keep them away from harming others whether directly or by espousing their absurd ideas so voiciferously. There may be children attempting to learn and running across this dribble and giving it credence.
Scott can you please muzzle idiots?

[racer270]

Cross > top RIGHT. Your move........RALPH,........mind if we play throuth...lol

[Techstuf]

Scott can you please muzzle idiots?

Terry, would you? Scott has eyes and an obvious appreciation for truth.....perhaps he is not obligated to a naked emperor as are some.

There may be children attempting to learn

Then let them look skyward and then look here:


http://www.rense.com/politics6/chemdatapage.html


http://www.lightwatcher.com/chemtrails/patents.html


http://omega.twoday.net/stories/161057/


http://www.mysteriousnewzealand.co.nz/r ... rails.html



Everyone notice the "spanish inquisition" syndrome at play here? Not ONE mature, rational refutation of the considerable evidence. For when the evidence cannot be reasonably refuted.....'they' resort to childish insults, tantrums and worse.

DISGUSTED

I echo your sentiment. Although, perhaps I am more empathetic to your condition, than you appear to be, mine.


Terry.....Muzzling idiots?......


Isn't that what these are for? :


http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/fe ... ncamps.htm


Awaken my children! The hour is getting very late.

[Sevich]

Hello people..

Yes I do believe that within the U.S. is an evil force at work. I think it comes more from a group which pulls strings from behind the scenes.

Here's another invention (spark plug) that I hope won't be bought out by an oil company and supressed......but nothing has been heard if it since it's anouncement ??????? ....does'nt look good !!

It has a 44 - 50 % increase in mpg

http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/Firestorm.html

[rlortie]

0 top middle, and I agree with Terry and Sevich! My ignore list is growing to the point that it leaves holes in this thread. I am considering removing my book mark completly. I will probably do so as soon as I loose this game of tick tack doe.

Ralph

[racer270]

x bottom middle......Ralph

sevich,
actually there is a better spark plug than what you've shown.
It's called a surface gap spark plug, no ground electrode at all which allows a complete uninterrupted flame propagation.....!

the surface gap spark plug added 15 hp to my racecar,(on a dynamometer), and an extra 200 rpm.
But the notion of 44 to 50% increase in gas mileage is a fallacy.
Adding 15 hp to a highly efficient racecar motor is only adding about 4% increase in horsepower but it did nothing to increase gas mileage it still only gets 4 miles a gallon.
Gordy

ps. quote: sevich

Yes I do believe that within the U.S. is an evil force at work. I think it comes more from a group which pulls strings from behind the scenes.

and I agree with you 100%
the people pulling the strings are the same people with privileges,

they spend $12 million on a campaign to get a job that pays 200 grand a year for four years.

when there is no controlling the higher levels of government , or its law enforcement agencies..............then All us citizens are just along for the ride:------------/...?

the US Constitution was sapost to mean something ....!!!

I got news for all you ,.....they're doing with the damn well please no fear of reprisal.....!!!

what it's really boiling down to is the world is fighting over resources .....ie:oil =money = power and control,of worldwide power.....$$$

the new way to pay for wars...........is economical manipulation by the president Congress and the Federal Reserve /that doesn't work hand-in-hand with the president........." is a fairy tale".......

and if you believe otherwise I got a bridged for sale......l-l.......

and the Achilles' heel of the United States would be an attack on the economy and that's what the other side is doing.......

[rlortie]

0, bottom right, where is ovyyus, he started this damn thing!

[Techstuf]

Ralph, be serious. I started this thread....and thus far not a single brave soul has challenged the evidence presented.


Unless you count immature remarks and child's games.


Of course, such is to be expected.


Sevich, where can one obtain the spark plugs you name? In any vehicle I know of, an increase in horsepower means a lighter foot on the accelerator which directly translates to fuel savings.....in your extreme vehicle, perhaps too small to notice....the average street chariot would surely see savings. And Kruppa's firestorm plugs, if the plasma ball principle is sound, would surely increase fuel savings quite noticeably.



TS

[ken_behrendt]

According to the inventor of the "Firestorm" sparkplug:

So, I took a brand new plug and filed it down into the shape of a dome and fired it and noticed it worked a little bit better. But I still had a problem with the grounding side. Next, I whacked the ground off and started putting different configurations of grounding electrodes on it, and I held everything together with toothpicks to make it easier to change.
"When I put a half a loop on the grounding side, it seemed to fire a little better. Then I took the head of a screw and bashed it with a hammer until it took a dome shape. Then I took the other side and dimpled it, creating a concave—an inverted dome, really. I carefully balanced that battered dome on top of the electrode of the new plug that I had filed to accommodate it, and then I put a half a ring over it for the negative electrode, again holding all that together with toothpicks. And when it started firing, the amount of energy coming off the plug was just crazy, and I said to myself, 'I've really got something here!'

Sounds like he just increased the surface area of the electrodes somewhat so that the plug makes more than a single spark when it fires. I've seen supposed "miracle" sparkplugs like this in the past and they all claim to greatly increase one's gas mileage. This fellow, however, is claiming an increase of 44% to 50% in gas mileage and that is a LOT. I think I'd have to see some independent tests before I would believe it.



Back during the late '70's, I was at a flea market in southern NJ and a guy was demonstrating an interesting little gadget called a "spark enhancer". It was a small black plastic cylinder that the vehicle's owner plugged into the top of his distributor cap and which the high voltage lead from the ignition coil was then plugged into. He was selling them for $5 each.

What sold me was that he had an 8 cylinder test engine set up and attached to a dynameter with a large meter on it that the whole crowd watching his demonstration could view.

First, he started the engine and it idled along at about 650 rpms. Then he began pulling wires off of the engine's sparkplugs. After he had pulled off two wires, the engine's idle speed dropped below about 550 rpms and it promptly conked out.

Next, he attached the spark enhancer to the engine and restarted it. It now idled at almost 800 rpms! He then proceeded to pull wires off of its sparkplugs and, eventually, had that 8 cylinder engine running on only two sparkplugs with a idle speed of about 580 rpms!

Needless to say, his table full of gadgets sold completely out in about a minute or so and I was lucky to grab one for my gas guzzling Chrysler "New Yorker". I did test the device and discovered that, on the highway, it took me from about 8.5 mpg up to 11 mpg which was about a 30% increase!

The device was, unfortunately, cheaply made. After using and enjoying the improve gas mileage for a year, one day the engine suddenly stalled out. When I opened the hood, I discovered that the spark enhancer's plastic case had cracked open while I was driving and all of its internal electronic parts had fallen out on the roadway behind me! I tried to find another dealer who could supply me with one but, mysteriously, they were not for sale anywhere...


So, miracle sparkplugs to improve gas mileage? Yes, I think it could be possible, but in today's world of over hyped marketing, claims are easy to make and difficult to prove...



ken

[Michael]

You know what, go diesel. The new cars run very well. I checked a few out on the weekend. Very quiet and no smell. The amount of gas used is about half that of a regular car, something I am thinking of doing since I spend somewhere up to to 900.00 a month on gas. That will bring me down to under five hundred. Bio diesel can be made from leftover grease from fast food resturants, heck you can get that for free and set up a bio diesel refinery in your garage. Takes a couple of days I hear, but who cares? With other alternatives; Jim hows your idea coming?
Forget about using acetone on new cars. With mine it worked for a little while and then I didn't notice it anymore. I took it in for servicing in December and they said there is a noise coming from one of the cylinders, so they replaced the engine, at least it was under warrenty, then I heard later that acetone is damaging to aluminum engines.

[Sevich]

rlortie...

My ignore list is growing to the point that leaves holes in this thread

a bit like Swiss cheese, Right ?? .........can we see the list ?? :)




racer270...

actually there is a better spark plug than what you've shown

Would'nt think so.....but who knows ?
Will consider buying 4 standard Bosch spark plugs and tig weld an arch over the top of all four. The steel ball part would be a problem since the plug tip is made of carbon steel. Even if steel balls were in place, it would would run the risk of them breaking and falling into the cylider ?




Techstuf...

where can one obtain the spark plug you name?

I can't find them anywhere. I even checked Krupa's "CenturyDevelopmentInternationalLimited" company on the web and found nothing ? .....I'm at a loss?




ken...

mysteriously, they were not for sale anywhere...

are you supprised ?




Michael...

Bio diesel can be made from left over grease from fast food resturants

who's got time to run around asking fast food outlets if they've got leftover grease? .....even that costs petrol !




terry5732...

But to see someone believe SO strongly in something so absurd and not be locked away?

I'd rather George Bush was locked away for believing so strongly in his vision and now execution of a U.S. invasion of Iraq !! ..... Iran next? ........fuel = ??

[ken_behrendt]

I just had an idea for a super-duper sparkplug! I call it the "Hellfire" sparkplug because of its unique 6+6+6 design...


ken

[jim_mich]

Ken,
Your "Hellfire" sparkplug won't work very well since the electrodes are recessed inside the magnet. A sparkplug's main function is to initiate a flame front which then spreads across the cylinder cavity. Your sparkplug would require the fuel/air mixture to move into the sparkplug recess in order to be ignited. Since the recess is enclosed by the magnet there would be no flow through of the air/fuel, so there would be little air/fuel between the electrodes to start the ignition process.

There's a little known yet simple way to improve an engine's performance. Remove the cylinder head and grind or machine small thin grooves or cracks that radiate out away from the spark plug. For some reason these grooves will affect the flame front and cause the engine to run better. Of course it also lowers the compression ratio a little. If I remember correctly this idea comes from a patent in India.

[racer270]

racer270...
Quote:
actually there is a better spark plug than what you've shown


Would'nt think so.....but who knows ? ..........................:) aaa i do...

410 cu.in and almost 1000 hp to the tires...... at 1200 lbs.......... can you say.........yeha.....!
the fuel economy is only two miles to the gallon---------but who cares..!

on methenol....with the plugs i showed.......above.