To Good to Be True?

[BZ]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=HF__Qlhtnws& ... er%20power

[pstroud]

Water Power! That's Awsome and can turn this world upside down!!!!!!

Preston.

[coylo]

I wonder just how much energy/electricity it takes to "break the water down" with his "very unique electrolysis process"? - Nothing new here, they do this on nuclear subs to get the oxygen they breathe.
There's no mention of the fact that he's getting more out than he puts in (electrolysis Vs combustion), therefore we haven't just been made obsolete.

[Jon J Hutton]

The generator welder costs about $7000.00

JJH

[Patrick]

Now that really catches the attention!!
Here is the company's website:

www.hytechapps.com

[Vic Hays]

This reminds me of some claims made a few years ago for Brown's gas. If so the claims are probably much inflated and indeed too good to be true.

[rlortie]

Vic,

You are not alone, I too thought of Browns gas when I first opened this link. I thought to myself, is it already been enough years for a repeat.

Like most claims of something to good to be true, they surface with each new generation. My favorites are Dennis Lee and Tom Beardon. who rely on technology dating back to the 1940's

Ralph

[ken_behrendt]

I once briefly corresponded with an inventor in Canada who claimed to have a device that would greatly increase the gas mileage of an internal combustion engine. His device was mentioned in an issue of Popular Science during, I think, the mid-1970's and, supposedly, was being examined by the Canadian government.

The device was an ultra sonic carburetor of some sort. Apparently, as the gasoline vapor sprayed out of the ports inside of the carburetor throat, it would strike the surface of an ultrasonic transducer plate. That collision would then greatly reduce the size of the vapor droplets and, consequently, greatly increase the surface area of the droplets available for combustion.

I think he claimed some incredible mileage figure when the device was used like 70+ miles per gallon. Oddly, since then, I've heard nothing about this device...



ken

[rlortie]

Ken,

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nother such story made headline new and TV in the late sixty's.

A Minnesota farmer had taken his late model Ford pickup and reportedly did the following.

First he made brackets to hold two high amp alternators which were driven by the same belts running the original, fan and water pump. He then added a series of cells in a container with an electrode in each. every other one was negative and the next positive charged. There were holes throughout the bottom sides of each cell allowing the water to stay level in all cells and pass water molecules for even distribution.

A hose like manifold to collect the oxygen from one polarity and the hydrogen from the other. the two gasses were kept separate and fed into the Fords intake manifold.

He drilled a hole about 1-1/4" diameter in the manifold next to the main carburetor. To this he attached a small lawn mower type engine carburetor. This was attached by linkage to the main carburetor and accelerator linkage. The collected Hydrogen and oxygen were then combined through this small carburetor.

Here again is one of those news making invention that all of a sudden went quiet. Did the men in black shut him up. did the oil companies buy him out? Was the horsepower that was used to turn the extra alternators not efficient, even though he claimed much higher fuel effeciency.

Your guess, is as good as any.

Ralph

[docfeelsgood]

i believe it was back around 1979 80 or 81 era that mother earth news ran an article of a person in vermont who invented a "acetylene" carb. setup . he started out experimenting with a propane carb. but found it inadequate . so then designed a new one of his own. i believe his air fuel ratio jumped to around 33 to 1 . no pollution , easy starting , powerful, cheap ,especially if you mounted a "carbide generator" to the vehicle similar to the one used for lights in the "modol T days" . so off he goes to washington to get his technology approved . he was turned down at every path ! "we can't have people driving around with a potential bomb in the trunk" !!!!! he was totally squashed !! he was willing to share his findings with anyone who wanted to build their own but was never able to market anything . whats wrong with this picture that you can drive around with 25 gallons of highly flammable gasoline or a 25 gallon propane bottle in your trunk and be completely safe ????? but acetylene is taboo !!! "Doc"

[Dave]

The story about the ultrasonic carburetor is true. My neighbor was a sales manager for Texas Instruments and was selling them the pwer transistor for the ultrasonic generator. They were based in Texas in the 70's. They were getting 25 to 35% better gas mileage. The story ended with a number of the auto companies reviewing and said they were interested if their cost could get below $45. Who wouldn't pay that today.

[ken_behrendt]

I guess that there are many ways to juice up the performance of the good ol' infernal combustion engine. Hopefully, someday soon, one of them will actually be tried! I mean, I just read that the Ford Explorer gets a 18 mpg while the Ford Model T got 25 mpg! You think after a century that we'd being seeing something more impressive out of Detroit.

Well, my favorite gimmick for improving gasoline mileage is still the Porg carburetor. I've mentioned this before on this board. Basically, it was a bypass that one could activate from inside the car that would reroute the fuel to an evaporation chamber that was heated by the engines exhaust manifold. The gasoline would then boil and quickly form a vapor. This was then fed into the regular carburetor.

The inventor claimed that he had tested the device on, I think, a Ford Galaxy which was pretty close to the average car at the time. The results? He claimed that he was getting 75 miles per gallon!

Now, that's what I call progress...


ken

[murilo]

Just 75 miles per gallon?
Look at this:
http://www.gravityseries.com/pages/10/index.htm
regs. M.

[ken_behrendt]

Murilo...

"Extreme Gravity Racing" looks like the latest version of the old "soapbox derbies" that they had when I was a kid. I remember building such a racer when I was a kid. It used 2x4's for the chassis and baby carriage wheels for the tires. Steering was achieved through a rope that pivoted the front axle. Braking was done with two brake shoes...attached to the feet of the driver!

One day, on a particular steep slope, my racer experienced catastrophic structural failure when the pivot holding the front axle to the chassis snapped in half. That resulted in a rollover, but, fortunately, I was not injured. In those days, no kid I knew ever wore a helmet.


ken