A Gravity Wheel using 360 degrees???

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A Gravity Wheel using 360 degrees???

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Check out stargrail.com
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http://www.stargrail.com/

Your taking the piss, right?
It won't work.

We'll find PM one day, but not through this method.
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coylo wrote:Your taking the piss, right? It won't work. We'll find PM one day, but not through this method.
pies(R)square, but only round ones turn. there's nothing magic about E=MC squared. But it will be magic if you get that one to work!! does it do any tricks like play dead???
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Hi Ant

Don't let these guys get you despondent. My 1st idea for a PM device was also simple but, impossible. I was very enthusiastic while I built my impossible PM. And even though it did not work, a reward still awaited at the end of the project, I found out why it would not work and so I was better of knowledge wise for the next attempt.

I like the opening paragraph on your web site ' Star Trek through Jesus Christ'. Its one of the funniest statements that I've heard in a long time. Many a true word was said in jest though, and If a PM device is discovered that is to do with gravity, then it is possible that what we learn from it can one day be used for space travel as the bodies in the heavens all have their force fields of gravity.

Welcome.
Persevere to succeed.
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Don't take what I said to heart, I'm assuming that your concept isn't going to work due to past experiences of my own. You came to this forum for support and instead I gave you a kick in the teeth. For this I apologise.

Remember "a failure is only a failure if you don't learn something from it."

Good Luck.
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coylo wrote:Don't take what I said to heart, I'm assuming that your concept isn't going to work due to past experiences of my own. You came to this forum for support and instead I gave you a kick in the teeth. For this I apologise.

Remember "a failure is only a failure if you don't learn something from it."

Good Luck.
me too!!! I APOLOGISE ...ITS JUST THAT i was out of line and i needed to see what all the switches doo...
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From the experience that I have had in constructing mechanical prototype gravity machines, I have noted that the ratio on one side of the wheel compared to the other does not have enough difference to rotate.

The difference was noted when expanding the 10 armed matrix from 6 to 10 to 15 to 21 sq.. It become very clear that what would make it work is the correct ratio.

Once I realised its the ratio that matters, I sat back reviewed my studies of magic squares. The first magic square that rotates and oscillates is a six square. A six square is comprised of 36.

10 times 36 = Energy?

Until I see it built I do not 'know'.

It will take me a few months to make, as the length of 1 needs to be reduced on the prototype, and I have to strip the wheel and start from scratch.

Can anyone build it before then? If there are any offers, I have learnt some important lessons in constructing many prototypes, talk to me.




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P.S. How can one patent 360 degrees?
and you can't get a design solely on how a device works.
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My prototype wheel with 3 arms.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZCeMUQCkjQ

Edited to demonstrate the effect with 6 arms
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z68VwfHZMsA

The math behind the wheel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CErmsDRduCY


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Here are 2 examples of arms.

A long & short one...

The math and my experience suggest 1 to 111 incrementing articulating squares is just enough to force rotation when 6 arms are used.

Gravity causes the arm to be open at 12 o'clock and be closed at 6 o'clock because of the angle of the arm on the wheel. The longest and the last squares edge, is fixed on the wheel relative to the axle - shown as the white arrow in the small arm below. This allows free movement. Gravity causes the arm to close as the wheel rotates clockwise.

The friction generated by the arms opening and closing works against the arms opening and closing, yet the arms open and close displacing weight...
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Long incremented arm
Long incremented arm
Short arm. The white line shows the fixed direction to the axle. Allowing gravity to close the arm - when rotated clockwise.
Short arm. The white line shows the fixed direction to the axle. Allowing gravity to close the arm - when rotated clockwise.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsSTE1T4 ... ed&search=
saw this while surfing.
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Seen that...

had to grin at this one too...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uLPMGrMohc
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I doubt that anybody would be interested in cutting the pieces and boring the 15,984 precision drilled holes required to make 6 arms each having 8 layers from 1 to 111 incrementing squares (1=0.01 meters).

On the up-side as a prototype - the holes in the arms do not need 1,998 bearings, pins will do. Gravity and the weight of the arm causes oscillation overcoming friction caused by the arms opening.

I have tried to mimic the effect with large triangles - to no avail.

Within the arm, weight travels proportionally along the centre pins of the folding or closing squares and is proportionally accumulated along the centre pins of the extending or opening squares.
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I theorise when built, the ends of each arm with 0 at the end, follow the red circuit clockwise. A long enough oscillating mechanism alters the centre of gravity displacing weight to make it rotate to set the next pair of arms to drop open and closed.
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Red shows path of the arm ends, loaded with 0 weight.
Red shows path of the arm ends, loaded with 0 weight.
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I have decided to put on youtube an example of anticlockwise and clockwise movement.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsTodzq4hXE

The anticlockwise direction requires more force to replace the action of the missing arms.

This prototype has from 1 to 80 incremented squares inside. It falls short by 31 incremented longer squares and another 3 arms.

Adding another 3 arms causes a dampening effect, the magic square math used would suggest the minimum requirement for continual rotation is from 1 to 111 squares.

I am confident of the theory, when constructed the constructor will know if minimum energy can be extracted from 0 times 6 squared, please let me know - or better still let the world know.

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Post by jonnynet »

To me it seems you trick a bit. While the CW rotation you push the wheel on its arms so these come out much easier. At first, during the CCW rotation, you push your wheel at its outer frame. Please correct me if I judge wrong.
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