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Figure 3.3 shows the pendulum system with a Pulse Force.

From the previous descriptions, we know that the pendulum system with Pulse Force can Lead Out gravitational energy.
Figure 3.4 shows the swing of the pendulum extended to 360 degrees.

Instead of the oscillation motion, we now have a circular motion. However, the same theory of Extracting Energy from Gravity via Pulse Force is still valid. The Pulse Force needs to be much stronger.
Say what.!!!!!!

Do you mind explaining alittle more between the first and the second paragraph. Between fig 3.3 and 3.4
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LIB...

I think that the "Itseung" who is started this thread might be the Lawrence Tseung mentioned above. If so then he would be a very educated man who can speak English well. However, many very highly educated people have convinced themselves that they had "the" answer to the attainment of OU/PM when, in fact, they did not. It's, unfortunately, quite easy to talk oneself into thinking a particular design will work, especially when it is only on paper. In this field, it is only a working model which will convince anybody of the reality of a claim of having obtained over unity energy production.


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On 7/6/06, I found, in any overbalanced gravity wheel with rotation rate, ω, axle to CG distance d, and CG dip angle φ, the average vertical velocity of its drive weights is downward and given by:

Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
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Lee Cheung Kin and Lawrence C.N. Tseung

Money making from flying saucers [link 1].. Hmmm ..
Scam Alert.

http://www.info.gov.hk/cgi-bin/hk2030/m ... &noReply=1

http://www.sciencebase.com/science-blog ... tures.html

The same content is copy-pasted everywhere, he doesn't even put the effort to introduce himself correctly to forums ..

http://www.alternate-energy.net/R/news. ... 00689.news

http://www.topix.net/forum/tech/alt-ene ... HKS809BB6R


Oh and the BEST [Large content; looks like money making scamming in progress, but like that in front of the public eyes .. strange.. I have no definitive conclusion on this one yet . ]

http://client.perfectlink.com.hk/hk2030 ... m=1&msg=31
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Also to mention many links on his website leadout to page not found including the patent page.
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ken_behrendt wrote:I think that the "Itseung" who is started this thread might be the Lawrence Tseung mentioned above. If so then he would be a very educated man who can speak English well. However, many very highly educated people have convinced themselves that they had "the" answer to the attainment of OU/PM when, in fact, they did not.

Ken, He may be highly educated ..

But for me, education is not something extraordinary; there are very educated people, that make very stupid educated mistakes ..
University is not foolproof, in my years of studying, I saw a bunch of stupid teachers that didn't know what a transistor was, when they are in fact, teaching electrical components and their applications .. What the!? ..

I decided to quit university and learn by myself, which I did very well all my life ..

He may be intelligent or anything, but there are other intelligent people all around that don't have this education, and it doesn't even matter.

Intelligence applied in a different way ..


Anyways, I just don't like people like that, that want people to take them as mentors or gods.. They don't want to share, they want to take control.

Also, maybe this guy just decided to borrow his name ..

Why an email on hotmail !? .. You should have your university email address, or something more gratifying to show, or a company email host..

Something better than plain old stupid hotmail. . .
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To LustInBlack,

Sorry for not replying to you directly. I was checking on the pulse motor or Bedini machine you mentioned.

You probably already know the answer to designing a working Bessler Wheel type machine without knowing it.

(1) The theory is based on the working of the pendulum. However, the machine that should be built is NOT the pendulum type. The efficiency is just too low.

(2) The working model is based on the rotating cylinder with a pulse force. The principle behind the pendulum is used.

In the simplest terms, if you have a rotating cylinder with axle arranged horizontally and apply a periodic tangential force to it, you can extract gravitational energy. The mathematics is described on the first of my posts. The working prototypes are described on the file FAQa4.DOC as FAQ9.

We are trying to redo the video in English. Meanwhile read FAQa4.DOC and see the pictures of the working prototypes.
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From the website of mister Tseung .. [I post it, I don't know if there is a working link on his website that goes there]:
http://www.energyfromair.com/internatio ... /frame.htm
http://www.energyfromair.com/generator.files/frame.htm

[ I must admit, he has some interesting concepts ]


[ How to win the global economic war ..]
http://www.energyfromair.com/thebook.htm



Isn't Tseung a computer technology specialist [Don't know the correct title in english for that] ?

[Economic share points ... ]

http://www.info.gov.hk/cgi-bin/hk2030/m ... &noReply=1


More to come ..
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ITseung :

Thank you for the reply ..

I am making a bit of research on you to get some history ..

But it looks like you have something, I just can't find any pictures or concrete model based on your work, yet .

What are you specialised in, I mean, you studied in computers and physics ?!
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Figure 3.3 shows the pendulum system with a Pulse Force.

From the previous descriptions, we know that the pendulum system with Pulse Force can Lead Out gravitational energy.
Figure 3.4 shows the swing of the pendulum extended to 360 degrees.

Instead of the oscillation motion, we now have a circular motion. However, the same theory of Extracting Energy from Gravity via Pulse Force is still valid. The Pulse Force needs to be much stronger.
The above quote comes from the file FAQa3.DOC as FAQ7. It is the key to understanding the fact that oscillation systems can be changed into rotational systems resulting in very high efficiency.

Paragraph 1 and figure 3.3 shows the simple pendulum with a small swing. The result is a swinging motion. This is the case of pushing a child on a swing.

Paragraph 2 and figure 3.4 shows that we now swing the pendulum in a full circle. You can think of the sling. Please do not push the child on the swing that way! In this mode, the pendulum weight will be seen to accelerate on the downward motion and decelerate on the upward motion.

This is NOT what we want. We change the pendulum to a solid rod. The solid rod spins around its central point. In this setup (Fig 3.5), there will be no accelerate and decelerate motion. It will be a uniform spin.

This setup is further improved to that of a wheel or a cylinder (Fig 3.6).

Suddenly, the spinning cylinder can extract gravitational energy with the periodic pulse force applied tangentially to it. The magic and mystery of extracting energy from gravity is achieved.

The working models are based on this setup. All we need to add is the mechanism to extract electricity and use that electricity to power the periodic pulse force. It is NOT a perpetual motion machine as gravitational energy is continously lead out.

The Bessler Wheel works on the same principle.
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FAQ9 talks about a magnetic shielding material .

That material is just theoretical ..

If it was a possibility, a multitude of device would be possible.

How do you define that magnetic shielding material !?
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According to FAQ7 .

I made that drawing that should be what your device looks like . ..

What is missing in that drawing !?


There are 3 arms with a round Metallic Weight [Let's say 5 lbs each]
There are 3 pulsers on the periphery[electrical coil / not at 6o'clock however] .
The arms are fixed to the middle circle [axle].


Question, is that the same as the rail gun, in that you accelerate the object using a magnetic pulse, but instead of a linear path, it's circular!?


You say that the pulse will increase tension in the rope.
In the case of rods, the energy comes from where!?.. Wouldn't you need a strong pulse to increase tension in a metal bar ?!
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I can't read chinese, this file is retrieved from the website of Tseung ...

http://www.energyfromair.com/hongkong/aaareadme.doc

Oh, found that one too :

http://www.energyfromair.com/infinite/aaareadme.htm

Press coverage :

http://www.hkia.com.hk/esub2dec04monthlytopic.html


Patent application :

http://211.157.104.67/sipoasp/e-zljs/hy ... ResultID=1
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WOW!!!!!! Vic VERY cool site. We need to put our heads together and see if we can build one of these Meyer Attracters.

To Mr. Chinese B.S. artist - I live in Chicago I'd be happy to make the 280 mile journey - except I'm afraid that you would be a No-Show as is your proof/video. I use a MS browser - I can't get to any actual physical proof that you are talking about. Your like every mans first date (Besslers Wheel SOLVED) you get us all worked up over this and then you won't put out. Put Proof ON THE BOARD and every one of us will be 100% behind you. Just for your edification if you put a 60 kg person in a swing and exert 10 kg of pressure the vertical lift is equal to or less than 10kg. If you brought this person in the swing perfectly parallel to the ground would the height of the opposing position be perfectly parallel to the ground - no just less than.
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To LustInBlack,

I like your drawing titled tseung.jpg. One of the researchers in our group, Mr. Bill Fong, actually built a similar device. He used 4 pulse points. He tried to be quick and used a Wheel from a car parts shop. He tied magnets on the surface of the wheel.

There is nothing wrong theoretically with his or your drawing except the pulse force mechanism is too inefficient.

Compare this with Figure B4 in the file FAQa4.DOC. The number of ICs on the rotating cylinder was about 700. They were arranged in 8 or more rows. In each revolution, there can be at least 8 pulse periods. The result was 8 x 700 IC interactions per revolution. The wheel spins at 2,000 rpm.

If you believe in our formula - maximum gravitational energy extracted per revolution is 2MGR, you can calculate the maximum energy extracted. The engine weight was 28kg.

You are on the right path in designing the Bessler Wheel type device. I am glad that you actually spent time on our website. It should be much better when every important part is translated into English in a few weeks time.
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Please answer these questions :

- You talk about a shielding material for magnetism .
What is it !?


- Your IC [Intelligent Chips] ; they provide the pulses..
They do that, how!? .. You talk about the IC emulating a North Pole, a South pole or none .

Are you saying that this chip is ONLY a South or North or None, or is actually emulating a magnet when the South pole is up / North Up or None.

!? ..

I still don't see where the gravity helps your engine .
There are no weights ... ??
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