Cosmic Energy Electricity Generators

[rlortie]

The most popular magnetic shielding material is known as "Mumetal".

Here is a Google link leading to various descriptions and suppliers.

http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&o ... &q=Mumetal

The John Spence scenerio, reminds me of Bismuth, possible bonded with some sort of pitch which today would be replaced with epoxy.

http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&o ... &q=Bismuth

Ralph

[ltseung888]

To ken_behrendt,

The three working Cosmic Energy Electricity Generators our group built were:

(1) 1st generation - three partially shielded magnetic cylinders with axle in the vertical direction. That resulted in an output of 400 watts. The cylinders effectively cut the horizontal component of the magnetic field of the earth.

(2) 2nd generation - elongated three partially shielded magnetic cylinders with axle in the horizontal direction. That resulted in an output of 20,000 watts. The cylinders effectively cut both the vertical component of the magnetic field of the earth AND the gravitational field of the Earth.

(3) 3rd generation - Two concentrate cylinders with ICs. The inner cylinder rotates. The outer is stationary. Power is extracted from the cental axle which is placed horizontally. This generated 188 horse power. The cylinders effectively cut only the gravitational field of the Earth.

Please Read Appendix B in the FAQa4.DOC carefully. The figures and explanation are discussed there.

[ltseung888]

To rlortie,

Thanks. I shall alert my team to such magnetic shielding material. They do not need to depend on bamboo any more.

Figure B1 shows the enhancement of Gravity with Magnetic field. The magnetic pendulum has magnetic shielding material at the top. When such a pendulum swings under the Pulse Force, both Gravitational and Magnetic Energies are extracted.

Please see Figure B1 in file FAQa4.DOC.

I am enjoying the interaction of this forum. There is new knowledge every day. Thank you all.

[james kelly]

It is sad Sir, that most people only believe what they understand. Sometimes this is damn little. jim kelly

[rlortie]

Usage of pendulum force combined with the "hall effect can be found in a US patent #5589721

The end result in this patent with magnetic suspension can be seen at:

http://www.allwaze.com/woodcraft-hover.htm
The suspension method is strictly permanent magnetics while the pulse force is supplied by a Hall switch within a small coil excited by four AA batteries.

Ralph

[ltseung888]

To james kelly,

Thank you for the kind words. In reality, I do not care whether people believe because we have the WORKING electricity generators.

The main purpose is to use this forum as a dry run for our October Presentation.

We already got much better response than what we expected. We know that people do not read all the information posted. Sometimes, we have to repeat and repeat just like advertising.

We shall:

(1) Get all important material translated into English first.
(2) Get a few important "supporters" convinced first.
(3) Get the video files translated and in displayable format early. Do not rely on downloading.
(4) Get more eye witnesses of the demo to testify.
(5) Get International News Media to interview and record the working of the machines first.

[ltseung888]

To rlortie,

Thank you for mentioning the patent and the resulting "toys". Mr. Lee Cheung Kin got his inspiration of Extracting Energy Directly from Gravity by watching the operation of one of these toys.

We then remembered the case of pushing the swing and the punch bag over 40 years ago. Once we started the mathematics, the correct theory was obvious.

That patent never mentioned that gravitational energy was "lead out". Thus we never violated that patent.

[LustInBlack]

Tseung :

All of this reminds me of Tesla's work .

All this pulse/resonance effect.. Tesla did the same thing, and I happen to believe in what he has done ..

I need to get my hand on some permeable magnetic material and get some tests done ..

But, it should be possible to get the same effect completely mechanical ..

[LustInBlack]

Ralph: I see this have to do with the magnetic bearings we talked about in another thread . ..

Must be another use for them ..

[LustInBlack]

Ken :

When one tries to use their shielding abilities to make a permanent magnet motor, one quickly discovers that, instead of the magnets attracting each other when they are not supposed to, they then start attracting the shielding material when they are not supposed to and the result is that the permanent magnetic motor still will not run continuously. It's another one of those "no-win", Catch-22 situations in Nature that we mobilists keep encountering.

I believe that Tseung has found that problem and solved it using magnetic coil pulse .. Which looks like a good alternative after all .

The coil pulse just enough so the magnet interact, so it's not continuous. Other magnets should not interact with the coil in that case...

However, when the magnets pass the coil, there is back-emf which causes counter-torque ..

The magnetic shield material may be used to that effect.. When the coil pulsed, the material shifts in front of the magnet ...

No back-emf .

It's an electrical motor, but without back-emf .. !?

[jim_mich]

L. Tseung,

You use the term "lead out". What do you mean by this phrase? The English word "lead" has many definitions. The online hyperdictionary lists 15 noun definitions and 16 verb definitions. When the word is pronounced with a short "e" as "led" then it can be a noun that means the base metal that alchemist try to turn into gold or it can be the past tense verb meaning to guide as in "I lead the bull by the nose." When the word is pronounced with a long "e" as in "meat" then its meaning is the present tense verb as in "I will lead the bull by the nose."

The English word "out" is quite clear. It means the opposite of "in".

I think that most English speaking people will not get any meaning from the phrase "lead out". If your object is to confuse and obscure what you mean by "lead out" then you are doing a good job. But on the other hand if you want a phrase that quickly and clearly conveys some specific meaning then I suggest you search for a different phrase.

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I find your beach pump demonstration interesting since it has similarities to my Bubble Generator Free Energy system. Many years ago I looked into extracting energy from deep water using only compressed air. My calculations led me to believe that energy input equaled energy output. This is what led me to consider using electrolysis which will produce free energy. The problem with my Bubble Generator is current fuel cell technology and is not advanced enough to make it worth while.

With your beach pump experiment you fail to consider that even though you can pump water to great heights it takes many times more pump strokes. I think you could a lever on a cnventional pump and achieve the same results.

There is much more I could comment upon. Maybe later?

[ltseung888]

To LustInBlack,

"It should be possible to achieve the effect with something totally mechanical."

Remember that in the mathematics of the pendulum, you supply roughly 2 units of pulse energy and get 1 unit of FREE gravitational energy. If you assume 0.3 unit is lost as heat etc., you have 0.7 units FREE for use.

See the attached file for the pictorial explanation. Can such high efficiency be achieved with mechanical systems?

[rlortie]

Gentleman,

I feel that some are getting overexcited at the response this thread is achieving. There is nothing new in pulse motors, or attempts to negate back emf. There are numerous forums in the yahoo group dedicated to this field.

pulse motors have been built and tested to death and have been around longer than Bedini. My favorite names in this field are Butch Lafonte and Norman Bollinger.

We also have a sleeper member here by the name of Eric Vogel, He is member #88 having been registered since March of 2004.

Eric has his own forum called minatowheel@yahoogroups.com, Where you will also find me, a charter member occasionally.
his home page of records and files is at,

http://www.fdp.nu/default_cached.html Called "The Flying Dutchman" here you will find leads to various magnetic and pulse motor designs.

If more input or links are desired, please inform me via an address by private post. I have about 30 years worth of collected links and hard copies regarding magnetic motors and related so called over-unity devices. Warning: I am not into anything related to Beardon or other claims of zero energy!

If you wish to go back before computers to old Rex Research papers of 1962 vinatage, I have a few.

Ralph

[LustInBlack]

Ralph : No I'm not overexcited, if you were talking about me, I am neutral as I said.. I don't take any position here as there is too little information / proof to take a definitive conclusion .


However, that gives me ideas I will try ..

[ltseung888]

To jim_mich,

Our definition of "Lead out" is as follows:

In a stationary pendulum, the tension in the string is equal to the weight of the pendulum ball. When a horizontal pulse force is applied to the pendulum ball, the tension in the string increases as demanded by the Law of Parallelogram of Forces.

This increased tension of the string is responsible for lifting up the pendulum ball.

The horizontal pulse force is too small to lift up the pendulum ball. (In our swing example, we used 10 kg pulse force to lift up a 60 kg person.)

The vertical work done is the Pendulum Ball x Height Lifted. (Egravity)
The horizontal work done by the pulse force (Epulse)
= Pulse Force x Horizontal Displacement

Egravity is not equal to Epulse. We supply Epulse. Egravity comes FREE. Both are then stored in the pendulum system.

Epulse LEADS OUT Egravity.

(This definition of LEAD OUT has never been documented before. Our PCT patent examiner also asked similar questions and we gave the above as our definition. Hope it helps.)