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Canadian Inventor Peter Markovich

Apparatus to Rectify Ether Energy (ATREE)

Markovich Tesla Electrical Power Source, referred to as MTEPS

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See http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/ ... arkp1.html

From a letter written by Peter T. Markovich dated August 31, 1978. (See http://www.rexresearch.com/markovic/atree.htm )
May & July, 1978 ~ The current working model of the MTEPS Research is producing 360 volts; current at 14 amps; producing AC and DC electrical power capable of running a 5 hp motor to light 6 household light bulbs. This was successfully demonstrated at the US Dept. of Energy.
I find nothing more about ATREE or MTEPS after this date. Suppression?

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Top/Nice site Jim!

Will consider quiting the search for the Bessler principle and focus most of my time into electronic or "free energy with non moving parts"

I think this is the future and the way to go about it!!

It's starting to make no sense to me in the continued search for a gravity wheel ? .....With this thread, Jim has reawakend my interest in "energy from the air" so much so that I'm more than likely to turn my back on Bessler and move on.

If you are reading this Scott, I wish/hope you might consider creating a non bessler "free energy forum"
along side the other four ?? ..... winds of change are aproaching, and Bessler is making way!!

http://www.keelynet.com/energy/markfake.htm
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Jim...

Interesting gadget. It reminds me of the Hubbard "Self-Sustaining" Generator in the form of toroidal transformers.

However, rather than "rectifying" ether energy, it looks to me like, IF it actually works as described, it would be picking up and rectifying some natural form of radio waves in our atmosphere.

I suspect that if this device was placed in a Faraday Cage that its output would suddenly drop to zero as the incoming radio frequency energy was blocked.



Sevich...

I do not think interest in Bessler's work will cease just because other free energy devices show promise. Bessler's device represents the "Holy Grail" of mechanics, not electronics, magnetics, or hydraulics. It will continue to remain the central mystery in the history of gravity driven devices. However, it would certainly be nice if we could finally get that much anticipated breakthrough in its design. Fortunately, there are still some designs forthcoming that might do this...we have to be patient and believe it will happen.



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On 7/6/06, I found, in any overbalanced gravity wheel with rotation rate, ω, axle to CG distance d, and CG dip angle φ, the average vertical velocity of its drive weights is downward and given by:

Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
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I have seen discussions about this kind of set.
Must be great fo capture static electricity and lightinings in storms...
No good for those lamps and for the experimenter. :[
Take care! M.
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Hi all..

I've partly built the "Hans Coler" apparatus (so far built only 1 coil out of 5) and test result so far shows a jump of 180 milivolts (peak) and then a steady 150 milivolts after a few minutes.


My preference in building "Coler Hans" apparatus as opposed to Jim_Mich's "Peter Markovic" apparatus is very much due to cost.

http://www.rexresearch.com/coler/colerb~1.htm

The model shown is not of my making....is just a guide!
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Sevich
Thanks for posting the photo and link.
This looks very good, and I wonder if you can post a simple detail of how the coil is designed with the magnet.
If you can share more as you go on this I am interested.
Thanks
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hi wheeler..


I'm not all that familiar with electronics, but it won't stop me from having a little fun while I'm at it. I feel no matter who builds this unit, it'll probably never give out more than what the single coil is pushing out at the moment combined? ......wait & see?

sorry wheeler ......for the moment I'll keep the details under the hat.

I'll post a picture or two in the next few weeks (give or take) ...hopeful?


I was searching Stefan's site www.overunity.com and came across a topic called "UNDERSTANDING HOW TESLA DID IT" posted by "Lightwave" .....in it he makes some interesting reading, as per the following:

If you try to get under that weight and lift it up, and just hold it there, you can only get it so high, and continiously expend energy. That's how we normaly (expend) energy, we are continiously pushing.


and this:
Now take that same weight and attatch a spring on it and hang it from some where high, and give it a little push, and then let gravity pull it down further than when you first disturbed it. At this moment, give another push up, with just the same amount of energy, and the weight will go higher. With expending far less energy than originaly, we can "lift" that weight far higher than with brute force.

and this:
you can never brute lift with force as high as you can swing a mass. Just ask David and Giliath. David used logic to "magnify" the force behind the rock.

and this:
Have you actually ever read any of Tesla's patents? If you have, you obviously don't understand any of them. Your thinking is "old school" when you need to think "ancient school". To the anchent's, energy was like "music to the ear".

and lastly this:
If you take that mass held by a spring, and instead ballance it with a rope over a pully to another weight of same size. Very little energy is needed to lift the original weight. By ballancing the weight (just like ballancing the resonance) we can do more work per packet of energy.
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sorry wheeler ......for the moment I'll keep the details under the hat
Thats fine, but I thought you were copying a design that was already out there.
Maybe you are working on your own design of a coil.
However I did look at the link and thank you.
I look forward to your posts as you proceed.
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Hey boy's....

The latest up date of my "Coler" coils shows and proves without a doubt that when 2 coils are placed 2 feet apart, they show no voltage on my volt meter. but when I bring them closer together at a certain distance they show a jump of around 310-320 millivolts and then settle back down to 198 millivolts. ....pretty cool !

Please note that slightly larger magnets are used than with the first. And as stated before, main details are under wraps with this one until such time.

Wish others were also toying with this posibility and exchanging volt results............maybe this is not the forum for such study ?

If I can't get at least one volt or more out of the rest of this experiment, then I won't be posting anymore updates on this thread.


PS.........Wheeler, you're right. I am working on my own design that is slightly different to the real thing...........but then again, what is the real thing (true design)?? ........ the most important details are usually taken out/not included in patents?
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wheeler & others with an interest

Here are 2 pic's that reveal a part of the process of getting out 310 millivolts (peak) using a magnet .....1.5 inch x 1 inch x 1/2 inch as well as aluminium foil and 2 pieces of balsa wood with a thickness of 7mm or 1/4 inch.

All 4 must be tightly compressed / sandwiched together! ......a steel "G Clamp" is ideal !

* aluminium foil = negative
* magnet face = positive

please note: if foil is more than (7mm) 1/4 inch from magnet, it will show no voltage on a multimeter!



I have nothing more to add ........good luck!
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Sevich
Thanks
Do you show the arrangement in the upper corner of your 2nd photo?
It is a good thing you are doing.
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No wheeler, the background bunch of small magnets are just that (junk magnets) too lazy to scrape off masking tape from their sides....lol !

No! .... what you see is what you see. If I had something to hide I'd make sure no one looked over my shoulder. This is all I've come up with and don't wish to continue the search any longer.

It seems to make sense that the only items to a working "power from air" aparatus would include ....a) copper b) aluminium c) magnet and d) insulation (mica)

The only iratating part is figuring out the arrangement !



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anton
Thanks for trying and good luck.
However your work has just begun.
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ken_behrendt wrote:Jim...

Interesting gadget. It reminds me of the Hubbard "Self-Sustaining" Generator in the form of toroidal transformers.

However, rather than "rectifying" ether energy, it looks to me like, IF it actually works as described, it would be picking up and rectifying some natural form of radio waves in our atmosphere.

I suspect that if this device was placed in a Faraday Cage that its output would suddenly drop to zero as the incoming radio frequency energy was blocked.


ken

ken,

The initial test runs on the first ATREE/MTEPS made was tested in a Faraday Cage to show that it isn't intercepting normal radio waves, as such.

Here is the data on that test:
Sept. 28, 1977 ~ Faraday Cage Experiment determined power rating and electrical potential at voltage of 2.5 V exactly; amperage at level of 0.5 A; wattage under ideal conditions at 1.25 W. resulting power source was attached to a series of loads which included a small incandescent light bulb used for flashlights and a 10 ohm resistor. Light remained bright and steady indicating device applicable for common electrical usage.

This shows clearly that the device isn't intercepting radio frequencies, as we normally see them, but using something all together different, i.e. Tesla/Scalar/Logitudinal waves...
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Welcome to the Discussion Board, tao...

It's quite possible that such a device, when tested and assuming the tests are valid, could be intercepting scalar radio waves from the atmosphere because these would be able to, in theory, penetrate a Faraday cage. The problem with scalar waves is separating them into their component electromagnetic waves.

When various such "generator" devices are presented, usually there is no theory of their operation also presented. Either the inventor is not revealing it or may claim that he does not understand how they work. As in all such cases, experimental results provided by the inventor are of little value in verifying whether or not the device is genuine. Such verification must be performed by a skeptical third party that is equipped to properly test the device. Rarely does this ever happen and when it occasionally does, all such devices so far have proved to be bogus.


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On 7/6/06, I found, in any overbalanced gravity wheel with rotation rate, ω, axle to CG distance d, and CG dip angle φ, the average vertical velocity of its drive weights is downward and given by:

Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
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