What happened to the three wheels he didn't smash in a fit of rage?

[Jon J Hutton]

Just thought some would like this collage....

John,

Let me ask this on a scale of 1 - 100 how sure are you that you have the design of the Bessler Wheel.

JJH

[ken_behrendt]

Right now, I'm about 90% certain that I do, in fact, have "the" general design that Bessler used.

After extensive testing, I will either be 100% certain or 0% certain!


ken

[LustInBlack]

Ken, I think this post wasn't about you ......

[ken_behrendt]

You're right! When I saw the word "John" in his post, I must have thought that he was signing it and the next line was a general question to the membership.

Sorry about that..but, come to think of it, it's a good general question for all those who are now finishing a design or have just completed some sketches for a new one.


ken

[LustInBlack]

Yes, but the origin is because John Collins seem to have something quite unusual .

And without being offensive, to me, you seem to overlook some details and ignore what you think doesn't work ..

So to me, John has better chance to find the mech.

But prove me wrong and I'll be very happy to be proved wrong.. 8]

[ken_behrendt]

LIB wrote:

..you seem to overlook some details and ignore what you think doesn't work ..

At the moment I am not considering any design that uses rolling ball weights, ramps, magnets, gears, latches, water, ambient air temperature differentials, or pendula as candidates for the the magic mechanism Bessler used.

I am only considering simple designs which use weights, levers, stops, springs, and, perhaps, ropes. Each of us, of course, should pursue the path that seems the most probable to us. Sooner or later (hopefully, sooner!) someone will find the answer.

I do hope that John has finally cracked the secret of the Bessler mystery. That would be a nice reward for all of the painstaking research he did over the years into the life and work of Johann Bessler.


ken

[John Collins]

In answer to your question Jon, I'm confident that I have the right design that Bessler used, although I couldn't give you a figure. I should know in a day or so. It uses only levers - no gears, no springs and no rope or catgut.

John Collins

[Jon J Hutton]

Thanks John

JJH

[Flywheel]

Alight, at least we know that Bessler wasn't a heartless cat killer!



SAVE THE CATS!

[PIMAN]

That's mews to me!

PIMAN

[Jon J Hutton]

John,

I have been messing around with levers for most of the time....I just couldn't get the idea of a bent piece of wood worked out....untill Last night. The results look intersting to say the least.

JJH

[ken_behrendt]

John wrote:

It uses only levers - no gears, no springs and no rope or catgut.

Strictly weights and levers?! This I've got to see! I started off with wheels that just used weighted levers, but could never get one to work. If what you have works, then it will truly be a breakthrough in gravity wheel design.



Just for the record, catgut does not necessarily have to be made out of cat intensines. It can be made from any animal and most of what Bessler would have had available to him probably would have come from the intestines of slaughtered sheep.



ken

[primemignonite]

Although things have certainly strayed far from the original esteemed question of Johnny D's, this thread is getting really interesting, and in an unexpected way . . .

It is said that that paragon of all great violinists, Nicolo Paganini, substituted the usual cat gut used for his lowest string (A?), with ones made of the intestines of his deceased FIRST WIFE, their apparently having had certain rare and elusive qualities not possessed-of by the ordinary feline versions.

One might naturally suspect that this change was NOT made out of any concern for the welfare of cats or sheep, but rather, for that of superior tambour and projection capabilities, at that otherwise comparatively weaker region of the tiny, puffing box. The macabre substitution worked out for-the-better, so it would seem, and the rest is musical history.

Oh yes, speaking of the macabre, at the sad end, the corpse of Paganini's was NOT laid to rest normally as yours or mine might be, but rather, was dis-allowed from being buried in any consecrated ground by Rome and for a quite a long while, this seemingly on account of the various charges made against the great master, both pre and post mortem, charges such as being in-league with Satan and of worship of him and his powers, this supposedly in exchange for Paganini's great worldly success and wealth, consequently bestowed by the personage of evil.

As a result of this dark drama, his pathetic carcass was allowed to mummify in it's coffin, rather than to simply rot naturally in the ground [It is said that the truly great do not deteriorate in the usual way as we ordinaries do, but rather, preserve of-themselves and remain fully recognizable 'till crumbled to dust by the rough work of millennia.].

Anyway, somehow it all got loosed from it's proper contingent care, and was to be seen for a very long time infamously displayed in public FOR CHARGE, by a traveling carneval non-deluxe. [What greater outrage could possibly be heaped upon one so famous in life, as he so surely was in death?]

Corrective action eventually being taken but ONLY after twenty years or so of this nonsense, things were gotten back in-hand by means of the Holy See finally being prevailed-upon to do things right, after all; the merciful and happy result being, that the Great Remains were eventually interred in a proper place and respectful way, complete with last rites and various honors, as appropriate.

Apochrypha de Grande Paganini . . .

James

P.S. For any who might be interested in finding out more about this great but bizarre, fellow human being of ours, here is a splash of well done, respectful history: http://www.niccolopaganini.it/paganini. ... e-f-i.html

[Jon J Hutton]

Forget the bent pices of wood....it didn't work.....sigh.. BTTDB

JJH

[graham]

James, that was quite a deviation that you made by taking us to the sad happenings of the mortal remains of our beloved Paganini .Definitely off topic.
Maybe you are becoming emboldened by the ever increasing quantity of green showing up in your "rep" .
Congratulations on the growing regard that you are now being held.

And Jon by "bent pieces of wood", were you working on the "warped boards" that were observed by an eyewitness ?

Graham