Bessler's use of Gravity
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- LustInBlack
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re: Bessler's use of Gravity
Ralph is obviously an honorable member and someone you can put trust in.
Simple.
Simple.
re: Bessler's use of Gravity
there it's all settled everyone can feel secure trusting Ralph with the plains of their billion dollar working wheel
thank you
i think
well
mabe
when flying pigs ice skate in hell
no offence intended Ralph
thank you
i think
well
mabe
when flying pigs ice skate in hell
no offence intended Ralph
the uneducated
if your gona be dumb you gota be tough
Who need drugs when you can have fatigue toxins and caffeine
if your gona be dumb you gota be tough
Who need drugs when you can have fatigue toxins and caffeine
Re: re: Bessler's use of Gravity
Fletcher,
Joined at the hip was James statement which I neither refuted or acknowledge other than in good jest. It is true that we look upon each other to be as close as brothers. We share a lot of commonality in our lives.
Yes we share, and work together on improving old ideas. (NOT Those held in confidence of OTHER PEOPLES). For His new design I will claim to have given him inspiration, but it is all his innovation that is building it. And it is he that is posting any claims.
General feed back here on the forum seems to be leading everyone into thinking that this new design is a rendering of the old. I do not recall Kelly stating anything of that nature, if so then I missed it. Nor have I seen any post by him claiming "ramps" I have not heard or used the term in any of our communication.
Edit: It has been brought to my attention by private mail that I did indeed speak of ramps regarding James and his first concept on this forum. That was months ago and does not infer that it has anything to do with his present design. I felt that this fact was obvious as it took place long before my present accuser joined this forum.
I believe that he deliberately held back on updating me as a surprise! I first heard about it by phone. I was stunned with his first statement which of course I cannot elaborate on.
Ralph
Joined at the hip was James statement which I neither refuted or acknowledge other than in good jest. It is true that we look upon each other to be as close as brothers. We share a lot of commonality in our lives.
Yes we share, and work together on improving old ideas. (NOT Those held in confidence of OTHER PEOPLES). For His new design I will claim to have given him inspiration, but it is all his innovation that is building it. And it is he that is posting any claims.
General feed back here on the forum seems to be leading everyone into thinking that this new design is a rendering of the old. I do not recall Kelly stating anything of that nature, if so then I missed it. Nor have I seen any post by him claiming "ramps" I have not heard or used the term in any of our communication.
Edit: It has been brought to my attention by private mail that I did indeed speak of ramps regarding James and his first concept on this forum. That was months ago and does not infer that it has anything to do with his present design. I felt that this fact was obvious as it took place long before my present accuser joined this forum.
I believe that he deliberately held back on updating me as a surprise! I first heard about it by phone. I was stunned with his first statement which of course I cannot elaborate on.
Ralph
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re: Bessler's use of Gravity
Billion dollars.. Don't think so .
Don't do it for the money, do it for evolution of this lame species.
Don't do it for the money, do it for evolution of this lame species.
re: Bessler's use of Gravity
Winkle,
No offense intended but sorry! some taken. When flying pigs ice skate in hell I will not bother to cross the street for a paltry share of one billion dollars.
Ralph
No offense intended but sorry! some taken. When flying pigs ice skate in hell I will not bother to cross the street for a paltry share of one billion dollars.
Ralph
re: Bessler's use of Gravity
Ralph wrote
the Shadow Knows
but he is not telling
if you feel better being offended be my guest
LustInBlack wrote
over just a very few years it would be a billion dollar toy
you would buy one wouldn't you
Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of menNo offense intended but sorry! some taken.
the Shadow Knows
but he is not telling
if you feel better being offended be my guest
LustInBlack wrote
if it were capable of nothing elseBillion dollars.. Don't think so
over just a very few years it would be a billion dollar toy
you would buy one wouldn't you
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the uneducated
if your gona be dumb you gota be tough
Who need drugs when you can have fatigue toxins and caffeine
if your gona be dumb you gota be tough
Who need drugs when you can have fatigue toxins and caffeine
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re: Bessler's use of Gravity
jim kelly ; to quote "ovyyus" "your swimmin at the deep end of the shark pool" ! surrounded by buzzards an jackalls !! congratulate yourself that you accomplished it . now take the damn thing out and burn it !!! if you have a running wheel i congratulate your success . "Doc."
re: Bessler's use of Gravity
Rest assured Bill, I also think Ralph is an honorable man. He is one of those I said I would believe immediately should they proclaim knowledge of a working wheel. I also don't think anybody is scamming anyone any time soon. That would require a conspiracy & to ask for money which hasn't happened, nor did I imply it.
In my part of the world I was brought up "to trust in God, everyone else pays cash".
Now unless there has been a second coming while I was away & there is a new deity amongst us here on Besslerboard, then golly, call me a doubting Thomas, but I require lowly proof of minor miracles.
Until that substantiation comes to light, one way or another, I'm not giving anybody a sweetheart armchair ride or elevating their status in advance, just because they tell me they have the face of an angel & have trusting eyes. That's for little old ladies.
If anything I think this has been an abject lesson in how not to make a serious claim of a working wheel.
I think I'll move on.
In my part of the world I was brought up "to trust in God, everyone else pays cash".
Now unless there has been a second coming while I was away & there is a new deity amongst us here on Besslerboard, then golly, call me a doubting Thomas, but I require lowly proof of minor miracles.
Until that substantiation comes to light, one way or another, I'm not giving anybody a sweetheart armchair ride or elevating their status in advance, just because they tell me they have the face of an angel & have trusting eyes. That's for little old ladies.
If anything I think this has been an abject lesson in how not to make a serious claim of a working wheel.
I think I'll move on.
re: Bessler's use of Gravity
You're a hard man Fletcher - I like it! :P
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re: Bessler's use of Gravity
Sometimes I think we (on this board) are playing the game survivor.....and although the alliances form, and are probably just as an important part of this quest, we have to put them aside and work on why we are here.......... THE WHEEL! In the end it will be just one man, but everyone will benefit from it. I am not afraid to put ideas up that could even contain the answer because all will benefit. Wasn't it president Reagan who had the plack on his desk that read .....Where would we be if it didn't matter who received the credit ....or something to that effect. A nation, like this board survives and is great, not in spite of, but because of its differences. I guess that is what ( among other things) keeps me comming back to these posts time and time again.
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re: Bessler's use of Gravity
Most of you are very hard to share anything with.If you doubt this, go back and read all of your posts.There are some people here who inspire me though. They are very few. I can't even tell them except by private post. James L. Kelly
re: Bessler's use of Gravity
Fletcher's hardline approach is IMO the right way to deal with this, I'm behind him. I thought it would of been the same for you Bill......I'm quite surprised!
Where would we be if we were to let such claims go unchallenged?
Yeah, James has not scammed anyone out of their money, but neither did the tooth fairy!
Jealousy and paranoia are negligable here, I would like nothing more than for James to shut the likes of me up by proving me wrong!
Now where's that proof?.............over 40 years and counting?
P.S
Ralph's integrity and honour is undisputed.
Where would we be if we were to let such claims go unchallenged?
Yeah, James has not scammed anyone out of their money, but neither did the tooth fairy!
Jealousy and paranoia are negligable here, I would like nothing more than for James to shut the likes of me up by proving me wrong!
Now where's that proof?.............over 40 years and counting?
P.S
Ralph's integrity and honour is undisputed.
re: Bessler's use of Gravity
I have worked with Ralph outside of this forum for 6 to 9 months and received inspiration and feedback on every wheel I build, major test run and design that I come up with.
I have always seen complete honesty, integrity and reliability in Ralph. He has ALWAYS maintained confidentiality and states that specific info is confidential and can not be discussed, when so.
Preston.
I can never find a Notary when I need one... :0)
I have always seen complete honesty, integrity and reliability in Ralph. He has ALWAYS maintained confidentiality and states that specific info is confidential and can not be discussed, when so.
Preston.
I can never find a Notary when I need one... :0)