Well, how about --
RUSSIANS BAN MICROWAVE OVENS
After the World War II, the Russians also experimented with microwave ovens. From 1957 up to recently, their research has been carried out mainly at the Institute of Radio Technology at Klinsk, Byelorussia. According to US researcher William Kopp, who gathered much of the results of Russian and German research - and was apparently prosecuted for doing so (J. Nat. Sci, 1998; 1:42-3) - the following effects were observed by Russian forensic teams:
1. Heating prepared meats in a microwave sufficiently for human consumption created:
* d-Nitrosodiethanolamine (a well-known cancer-causing agent)
* Destabilization of active protein biomolecular compounds
* Creation of a binding effect to radioactivity in the atmosphere
* Creation of cancer-causing agents within protein-hydrosylate compounds in milk and cereal grains;
2. Microwave emissions also caused alteration in the catabolic (breakdown) behavior of glucoside - and galactoside - elements within frozen fruits when thawed in this way;
3. Microwaves altered catabolic behavior of plant-alkaloids when raw, cooked or frozen vegetables were exposed for even very short periods;
4. Cancer-causing free radicals were formed within certain trace-mineral molecular formations in plant substances, especially in raw root vegetables;
5. Ingestion of micro-waved foods caused a higher percentage of cancerous cells in blood;
6. Due to chemical alterations within food substances, malfunctions occurred in the lymphatic system, causing degeneration of the immune system=s capacity to protect itself against cancerous growth;
7. The unstable catabolism of micro-waved foods altered their elemental food substances, leading to disorders in the digestive system;
8. Those ingesting micro-waved foods showed a statistically higher incidence of stomach and intestinal cancers, plus a general degeneration of peripheral cellular tissues with a gradual breakdown of digestive and excretory system function;
9. Microwave exposure caused significant decreases in the nutritional value of all foods studied, particularly:
* A decrease in the bioavailability of B-complex vitamins, vitamin C, vitamin E, essential minerals and lipotrophics
* Destruction of the nutritional value of nucleoproteins in meats
* Lowering of the metabolic activity of alkaloids, glucosides, galactosides and nitrilosides (all basic plant substances in fruits and vegetables)
* Marked acceleration of structural disintegration in all foods.
As a result microwave ovens were banned in Russia in 1976; the ban was lifted after Perestroika.
From the x files experiments of Michael Olson
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Not knowing is not the problem. It is the knowing of what just isn't so.
It is our responsibilities, not ourselves,that we should take seriously.
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Ahh fuwee...
The only bad thing about microwave is how it krusts up my burger buns.
:)
The only bad thing about microwave is how it krusts up my burger buns.
:)
"A man with a new idea is a crank until he succeeds."~ M. Twain.
re: From the x files experiments of Michael Olson
Bright lights;
Hi everyone. Thanks for the replies on this thread. I'll try to "mass" answer some of the points brought up. Here's what I definately don't think what it could have been, and what I think it may have been.
I don't think it was burn in on my visual cortex, or brain damage from microwave exposure.
1. The amount of energy played with was no more than a typical microwave gives off.
2. The microwave door was closed, therefore screened, as a normal microwave is.
3. I didn't spend long periods of time observing what, although interesting, can be rather boring.
The amount of light from the magnets was no more than a heated element on the stove, except where they touched, and that was about 1/8 of an inch, and whitish. As I said I believe the microwaves are being bounced back and forth between the two surfaces and heating the material.
4. The time differences were to great, about weeks to months after I was experimenting. I probably only did the experiments about 10 times at the most, and at different times. Not all at once.
I need to correct something. I was just looking at house and visualising distances. The ball size is correct, about the size of a small grapefruit. But it was more like twelve to fifteen feet abouve the house. When I said it gave off no light, I meant there were no rays of light that I could see, like when you look at a streetlight, and it cast no shadows, but then again it was above, and just behind the roof of this house. As well I could not see the top of the roof of the house ie. the tile, anyway. My main point about all this was the light was steady, it didn't flicker. The object was very solid looking.
Sometimes when you have a dream, you think the dream is real, until you wake up, and then of course you know the difference. This is the same as when you have been sick and have hallucinated, or have seen something, but it is a refection or some other "trick" of the senses. So, I know the difference here, and it was not a "trick"
1. the ball didn't "shift" as I looked up at it. So it couldn't have been some kind of burn in.
2. The event only happened once. I never saw anything like it before, or since. You would think that if it was burn in, I would eventually see it again.
3. when the ball dropped, it disappeared as it went behind the roof of the house.
I think most likely it was ball lightning. The aware entity idea is just a loose idea, just a curiousity. As I said, it moved shortly after I saw it, "as if" something might move if it was spotted and fled.
The other idea, I admit has crossed my mind, but I don't believe it, was for a very short period I went crazy. But as I said, I've never seen it since (and am scared to because of the pain associated with the movement), and I am quite sane.
So onto the magnet experiment. Anyone have any questions, or have tried this yet because there are some very interesting things I'd like to point out.
Mike
Hi everyone. Thanks for the replies on this thread. I'll try to "mass" answer some of the points brought up. Here's what I definately don't think what it could have been, and what I think it may have been.
I don't think it was burn in on my visual cortex, or brain damage from microwave exposure.
1. The amount of energy played with was no more than a typical microwave gives off.
2. The microwave door was closed, therefore screened, as a normal microwave is.
3. I didn't spend long periods of time observing what, although interesting, can be rather boring.
The amount of light from the magnets was no more than a heated element on the stove, except where they touched, and that was about 1/8 of an inch, and whitish. As I said I believe the microwaves are being bounced back and forth between the two surfaces and heating the material.
4. The time differences were to great, about weeks to months after I was experimenting. I probably only did the experiments about 10 times at the most, and at different times. Not all at once.
I need to correct something. I was just looking at house and visualising distances. The ball size is correct, about the size of a small grapefruit. But it was more like twelve to fifteen feet abouve the house. When I said it gave off no light, I meant there were no rays of light that I could see, like when you look at a streetlight, and it cast no shadows, but then again it was above, and just behind the roof of this house. As well I could not see the top of the roof of the house ie. the tile, anyway. My main point about all this was the light was steady, it didn't flicker. The object was very solid looking.
Sometimes when you have a dream, you think the dream is real, until you wake up, and then of course you know the difference. This is the same as when you have been sick and have hallucinated, or have seen something, but it is a refection or some other "trick" of the senses. So, I know the difference here, and it was not a "trick"
1. the ball didn't "shift" as I looked up at it. So it couldn't have been some kind of burn in.
2. The event only happened once. I never saw anything like it before, or since. You would think that if it was burn in, I would eventually see it again.
3. when the ball dropped, it disappeared as it went behind the roof of the house.
I think most likely it was ball lightning. The aware entity idea is just a loose idea, just a curiousity. As I said, it moved shortly after I saw it, "as if" something might move if it was spotted and fled.
The other idea, I admit has crossed my mind, but I don't believe it, was for a very short period I went crazy. But as I said, I've never seen it since (and am scared to because of the pain associated with the movement), and I am quite sane.
So onto the magnet experiment. Anyone have any questions, or have tried this yet because there are some very interesting things I'd like to point out.
Mike
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Hi Ovyyus,
I'm sorry I didn't give credit to where credit is due. Your right and I omited it, but I did ponder shortly after the time, if something had occured at the back of my skull that made me see the ball of light. But as I said I saw it first-before the pain. I suppose that's irrelevent. The ball did disappear as it went behind the roof however, and it looked very real. As I said I did ponder it and years later I saw my Doctor and told him about it. He didn't seem concerned and felt it was ball lightning. He had known farmers that had seen the same things before. Knowing your background have you considered trying the experiment? If so I have a couple of different setups you would be interested in trying because they yeld very interesting results.
Michael
I'm sorry I didn't give credit to where credit is due. Your right and I omited it, but I did ponder shortly after the time, if something had occured at the back of my skull that made me see the ball of light. But as I said I saw it first-before the pain. I suppose that's irrelevent. The ball did disappear as it went behind the roof however, and it looked very real. As I said I did ponder it and years later I saw my Doctor and told him about it. He didn't seem concerned and felt it was ball lightning. He had known farmers that had seen the same things before. Knowing your background have you considered trying the experiment? If so I have a couple of different setups you would be interested in trying because they yeld very interesting results.
Michael
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Just read this thread...
Ah, bucking magnets....
Ok this is just theory but my 2c worth anyway.
When you place two magnets in opposing positions they are termed "bucking" (with a "b" :-).
Bucking magnets stress the vacuum, similarly to electromagnetic fields which "cancel out" (thats in quotes as conventional science says so, yet the same science says energy cannot be created nor destroyed, only transformed - and if so then where the hell did the energy go when the two opposing fields "cancelled each other out"? They STRESSED the vacuum, which creates a LONGITUDINAL or SCALAR wave- and we leave our familiar TRANSVERSE electromagnetic spectrum behind (See Tom Beardens pages).
Anyway, if you place an inert (noble) gas like Argon, Krypton etc between strong opposing magnetic fields, some very strange things happen, something called "Primary Energy" emanates, but i dont recall the other effects, only that they were wierd.
Oh, and be careful with microwave ovens - remember that they put out HUNDREDS of watts at waters' resonant frequency (2.45 Ghz) and basically excite the water molecules ..... you are 80% (or so) water.
BTW, those gasses are easily acquired using light bulbs containing them.
beware rambling thoughts above.
Ah, bucking magnets....
Ok this is just theory but my 2c worth anyway.
When you place two magnets in opposing positions they are termed "bucking" (with a "b" :-).
Bucking magnets stress the vacuum, similarly to electromagnetic fields which "cancel out" (thats in quotes as conventional science says so, yet the same science says energy cannot be created nor destroyed, only transformed - and if so then where the hell did the energy go when the two opposing fields "cancelled each other out"? They STRESSED the vacuum, which creates a LONGITUDINAL or SCALAR wave- and we leave our familiar TRANSVERSE electromagnetic spectrum behind (See Tom Beardens pages).
Anyway, if you place an inert (noble) gas like Argon, Krypton etc between strong opposing magnetic fields, some very strange things happen, something called "Primary Energy" emanates, but i dont recall the other effects, only that they were wierd.
Oh, and be careful with microwave ovens - remember that they put out HUNDREDS of watts at waters' resonant frequency (2.45 Ghz) and basically excite the water molecules ..... you are 80% (or so) water.
BTW, those gasses are easily acquired using light bulbs containing them.
beware rambling thoughts above.
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alan
mate could this be the sort of magnetic 'principle you are mentioning
http://www.geocities.com/tomkar2003/fre ... riment.pdf
mate could this be the sort of magnetic 'principle you are mentioning
http://www.geocities.com/tomkar2003/fre ... riment.pdf
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also freaky stuff micheal, i ran it past one of my friends on the net and was instructed to point you in this direction for answers
contact and mention your story to
Gregory Keyock
xigent@rcn.com
he has done some freaky experiemnts with a plasma
here is one of them.
Let me share this. You know how to generate plasma. Ion charged or trapped photons. This form of energy is easily controlled by a simple magnetic force. Of course, the plasma can never touch the outside of the 'glass' vessel.
Well, we, have tested using plasma just how far down can a unit of plasma can be condensed. Turns out it will respond to very
modest magnetic force.............................................it then turns into a "glow ball". A physical ball of light that can be pushed about, and will sit on a counter. There must be some force, by exceeding some thresshold using magnets, at which point the ball of photons stay 'sticky' 'clustered', etc. etc. One last thing. Can gravity action be activated at a critical
level of density compression. I do not know. I have not even begun to attempt to explain this in a physical or abstract model. If you "Physically" disturb the "glow ball" it is like 2 things: 1) like random laser beams 1-2 sec. of existance all shooting out the ball, NO DANGER (but I can fully envision the bursts happening all at once, COULD BE SEVERELY
DANGEROUS) but the 2nd likeness is seeing arcs on the surface of the glow ball like solar magnetic arcs. the ball is about 1.5ft or so. Its surface is well defined and does not undulate.
contact and mention your story to
Gregory Keyock
xigent@rcn.com
he has done some freaky experiemnts with a plasma
here is one of them.
Let me share this. You know how to generate plasma. Ion charged or trapped photons. This form of energy is easily controlled by a simple magnetic force. Of course, the plasma can never touch the outside of the 'glass' vessel.
Well, we, have tested using plasma just how far down can a unit of plasma can be condensed. Turns out it will respond to very
modest magnetic force.............................................it then turns into a "glow ball". A physical ball of light that can be pushed about, and will sit on a counter. There must be some force, by exceeding some thresshold using magnets, at which point the ball of photons stay 'sticky' 'clustered', etc. etc. One last thing. Can gravity action be activated at a critical
level of density compression. I do not know. I have not even begun to attempt to explain this in a physical or abstract model. If you "Physically" disturb the "glow ball" it is like 2 things: 1) like random laser beams 1-2 sec. of existance all shooting out the ball, NO DANGER (but I can fully envision the bursts happening all at once, COULD BE SEVERELY
DANGEROUS) but the 2nd likeness is seeing arcs on the surface of the glow ball like solar magnetic arcs. the ball is about 1.5ft or so. Its surface is well defined and does not undulate.
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here it is micheal another opinion hope it helps there mate
I do not think the heating effect has to do with
magnetism, and it may actually be a form of low level
nuclear energy as you suggest. On my site in the
folder named Mega-Cable Spiral Resonances
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/files/SP/
you can see many pics of the ferrite glow
phenomenon,near the bottom of the folder; but this is
not due to sticking them in a microwave, but rather it
is due to directly passing alternator resonant
currents through the pieces.
I have shown many examples of this anomalous ferrite
heating effect. The reason I consider it nuclear
energy is the fact that if we took the resistance
evidenced by Ohms Law, where we divide the impressed
DC voltage by the amperage being passed through the
piece; if we then replaced the ferrite with ordinary
ceramic resistors, I do not think we would see this
volume of heat being released. The reason I say it has
little to do with magnetism is because this process
used unmagnetised SrFe, but it can become magnetised
during the process by allowing an eternal magnetic
field to interact with the glow, and when it cools it
becomes magnetised. Here I passed AC or DC directly
through 3/8 inch block pieces, using the source of an
alternator AC sent through spiral coils named maximum
energy transfer resonances.(METR). The ferrite glow
occurs on the connections between METR phases, where a
thousand fold reduction of resistance occurs as the
piece finally gets so hot that it begins to glow along
the fused pathway that developes. Since a microwave is
being used here however, let us look at the inverse
process. When passing the current through ferrite from
sources of resonant voltage rise, the ferrite itself
will broadcast rf energy that can be noted by scoping
out inductors in the vicinity of the effected piece.
However this does not appear to be a "specific
frequency" as folks are accustomed to think when we
speak of high frequency. It (might) seem that many
frequencies are simultaneously being broadcasted, for
the simple fact each inductor may record a different
frequency coming from the source, but this is merely
an oversight, as the stimulated ferrite causes those
inductors to merely vibrate at their own natural
resonant frequency. We can in fact change the
recieving frequency by changing the winding routes of
the recieving spiral inductors, so that when more
internal capacity is added to the recieving spiral,
this causes a reduction of the frequency being
recieved. This was shown with two equal length 4
layer spirals, where the ordinary return wound spiral
would record 330,000 hz, and a bifilar routed spiral
would record 250,000 hz, and both of these signals
were recieved simultaneously from the same ferrite
source, constructed as a 10 inch cylindrical rod with
taped aluminum strip electrode contacts made attached
to ten stacked 1 inch unmagnetised ferrite cylinders.
So ferrite has been shown to emit rf, and this was
done at far lower levels of amperage conductions, not
even close to that where it begins to glow.
Unmagnetised cylindrical ferrite/ neon interphasal
pathway
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/f ... c00015.jpg
shows the spirals on either side of the ferrite rod
being current limited by a 4 inch neon in series;
dual channel scopings (@ 20mv/div; 1us/div)
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/f ... c00011.jpg
shows the differences of frequency being recieved by
both of these 200 ft lengths of spiral winds.
Here is some other interesting info on ferrites...
Magnetism/ An Introductory Survey
E.W. Lee/1963
Ferrites are basically ionic compounds, just like rock
salt, held together by positive metal ions and
negative charges of oxygen... in the process of ion
formation electrons are transfered from metal to
oxygen, and if the number of oxygen atoms is just
right every electron given up by the metal atoms will
be recieved by the oxygen atoms. None are left over to
become free electrons as in a metal, and the substance
is an insulator. It is very important to get the right
amount of oxygen, however for if there is too little
there may be a slight excess of electrons, while if
there is too much there will be a small deficit, both
of which will lead to electrical conductivity.
This necessity for exactness of composition is by no
means confined to ferrites, for it is a general
feature of a large group of materials known as
semiconductors. Ferrites are in fact rightly
classified as semiconductors among whose chief
characteristics in that any deviation from the exact
chemical formula inevitably decreases the electrical
resistance, and that resistance of these
materials decreases rapidly with increasing
temperatures (unlike metals, whose resistance
increases slightly in similar circamstances)
Keeping the composition exactly right during the
sintering (ferrite) process is in fact one of the
secrets of the manufacture of ferrites,
for although the magnetic properties are not
influenced from departure of chemical exactness, the
electrical properties are, and it is primarily for
their electrical properties that they were
originally developed.
So 40 years ago they already knew this...
HDN
I do not think the heating effect has to do with
magnetism, and it may actually be a form of low level
nuclear energy as you suggest. On my site in the
folder named Mega-Cable Spiral Resonances
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/files/SP/
you can see many pics of the ferrite glow
phenomenon,near the bottom of the folder; but this is
not due to sticking them in a microwave, but rather it
is due to directly passing alternator resonant
currents through the pieces.
I have shown many examples of this anomalous ferrite
heating effect. The reason I consider it nuclear
energy is the fact that if we took the resistance
evidenced by Ohms Law, where we divide the impressed
DC voltage by the amperage being passed through the
piece; if we then replaced the ferrite with ordinary
ceramic resistors, I do not think we would see this
volume of heat being released. The reason I say it has
little to do with magnetism is because this process
used unmagnetised SrFe, but it can become magnetised
during the process by allowing an eternal magnetic
field to interact with the glow, and when it cools it
becomes magnetised. Here I passed AC or DC directly
through 3/8 inch block pieces, using the source of an
alternator AC sent through spiral coils named maximum
energy transfer resonances.(METR). The ferrite glow
occurs on the connections between METR phases, where a
thousand fold reduction of resistance occurs as the
piece finally gets so hot that it begins to glow along
the fused pathway that developes. Since a microwave is
being used here however, let us look at the inverse
process. When passing the current through ferrite from
sources of resonant voltage rise, the ferrite itself
will broadcast rf energy that can be noted by scoping
out inductors in the vicinity of the effected piece.
However this does not appear to be a "specific
frequency" as folks are accustomed to think when we
speak of high frequency. It (might) seem that many
frequencies are simultaneously being broadcasted, for
the simple fact each inductor may record a different
frequency coming from the source, but this is merely
an oversight, as the stimulated ferrite causes those
inductors to merely vibrate at their own natural
resonant frequency. We can in fact change the
recieving frequency by changing the winding routes of
the recieving spiral inductors, so that when more
internal capacity is added to the recieving spiral,
this causes a reduction of the frequency being
recieved. This was shown with two equal length 4
layer spirals, where the ordinary return wound spiral
would record 330,000 hz, and a bifilar routed spiral
would record 250,000 hz, and both of these signals
were recieved simultaneously from the same ferrite
source, constructed as a 10 inch cylindrical rod with
taped aluminum strip electrode contacts made attached
to ten stacked 1 inch unmagnetised ferrite cylinders.
So ferrite has been shown to emit rf, and this was
done at far lower levels of amperage conductions, not
even close to that where it begins to glow.
Unmagnetised cylindrical ferrite/ neon interphasal
pathway
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/f ... c00015.jpg
shows the spirals on either side of the ferrite rod
being current limited by a 4 inch neon in series;
dual channel scopings (@ 20mv/div; 1us/div)
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/f ... c00011.jpg
shows the differences of frequency being recieved by
both of these 200 ft lengths of spiral winds.
Here is some other interesting info on ferrites...
Magnetism/ An Introductory Survey
E.W. Lee/1963
Ferrites are basically ionic compounds, just like rock
salt, held together by positive metal ions and
negative charges of oxygen... in the process of ion
formation electrons are transfered from metal to
oxygen, and if the number of oxygen atoms is just
right every electron given up by the metal atoms will
be recieved by the oxygen atoms. None are left over to
become free electrons as in a metal, and the substance
is an insulator. It is very important to get the right
amount of oxygen, however for if there is too little
there may be a slight excess of electrons, while if
there is too much there will be a small deficit, both
of which will lead to electrical conductivity.
This necessity for exactness of composition is by no
means confined to ferrites, for it is a general
feature of a large group of materials known as
semiconductors. Ferrites are in fact rightly
classified as semiconductors among whose chief
characteristics in that any deviation from the exact
chemical formula inevitably decreases the electrical
resistance, and that resistance of these
materials decreases rapidly with increasing
temperatures (unlike metals, whose resistance
increases slightly in similar circamstances)
Keeping the composition exactly right during the
sintering (ferrite) process is in fact one of the
secrets of the manufacture of ferrites,
for although the magnetic properties are not
influenced from departure of chemical exactness, the
electrical properties are, and it is primarily for
their electrical properties that they were
originally developed.
So 40 years ago they already knew this...
HDN
re: From the x files experiments of Michael Olson
Hi,
>I do not think the heating effect has to do with
magnetism, and it may actually be a form of low level
nuclear energy as you suggest. On my site in the
folder named Mega-Cable Spiral Resonances
No I disagree. It is because one magnetic field is deflecting the electromagnetic wave onto a surface that's also deflecting the wave. It's getting caught between the two surfaces. My proffesional opinion.
Mike
>I do not think the heating effect has to do with
magnetism, and it may actually be a form of low level
nuclear energy as you suggest. On my site in the
folder named Mega-Cable Spiral Resonances
No I disagree. It is because one magnetic field is deflecting the electromagnetic wave onto a surface that's also deflecting the wave. It's getting caught between the two surfaces. My proffesional opinion.
Mike
meChANical Man.
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