Bessler's use of Gravity

[graham]

Thankyou Fletcher .
By the way although gravity Is a conservative force I still have hope a way around it will be found ,leading to a rebirth if J B's wonderful discovery.

Graham

[rounder]

sounds right to me the louder the better in the chain reaction of it all right just as it should be

[Wheeler]

rounder
you and I must have the same design.
Please do not keep putting details on the forum.
If you wish to combine efforts, send a private message.
If not I understand and will not interfere.
It looks like James will be first and he most likely deserves it.
All the details are now out.
Good luck.
And I now believe the system will be finished this year.

[Fletcher]

Yes Graham .. I believe it is a conservative force, just like a spring. I think JB used regular materials & well known physics to bend it to his will, to do his bidding if you will.

He was looking in the right direction to find a way to do that, rather than trying to force gravity to do the impossible thru share power of belief (or lack of alternatives) alone, imho.

As for the other boys .. good luck to one & all.

[rlortie]

Gentleman,( most of you anyway)

Ralph here, I have returned home to find that this thread has grown by 6.5 pages since my departure. I have not yet caught up on any other threads as of yet, as I also have 47 private e-mail posts That requires a response.

Of the 6.5 page review, I find that more has been said than done! There are a number of posts that I hope to put in my 2 cents worth, which will require a number of installments.

First there seems to be a belief that I was heading for Indiana, this is in error. I went East to Central Idaho with the intent of proceeding to Indiana if and only if I was notified that there was a need. This did not happen!

From the last 6.5 pages of input I found the following quote from Michael to be the most eye catching as a place to pickup on.

1712 is right Sevich, you cannot make 1.0 lift 1.5 the same distance 1.0 falls - unless the 1.0 is traveling at a faster velocity. To get the 1.0 to travel to that faster velocity requires an energy input that is slightly greater than the energy required to lift the 1.5 to a given distance.

Mr Kelly's and my concepts were both derived from a post made by a third party on this forum. He need not have been put wise to what he had revealed, but James Kelly like myself like to have a clear conscience. The third party member will be pulling into my driveway on or about noon Sept. 16th Pacific daylight time. Another reason why I am not in Indiana.

At departure, I made it clear that I would only extend my trip to Indiana if I received word that I would find a wheel in runnable condition when I arrived.

As for Michaels above statement, I will expand on the following. Yes it is possible to lift more than 1.5 pounds with 1 pound at a faster velocity providing that you are speaking relative to each other. As Bessler stated his weights of four times heavier were lifted in a flash. Mr Kelly and myself have discovered how this is accomplished. What Bessler did not make clear is that the term "relative" is highly relevant to this explanation.

Mr, Kelly stated that his wheel had a weight break through the rim. I had the same results with my build! In doing so it also split a length of 1-3/4" thick glue-lam of structural grade in half. Thus allowing the weight mechanism to drop to the bottom of the wheel which also broke through the rim. This was when I decided I was due for a get-away!

Let it be known that I find James Kelly to be a very innovative person, capable of building his own wheels when his health permits. Ovyyus knows what he is talking about!

The second post that caught my attention is from rounder.

i have a wheel that sounds very simular to what james is saying about his wheel. weights only on the one side running at fast speeds, much faster than the wheel itself. acting almost as a fast hand that can also fly upwards and be much more than it was - when it has to move back down again because of gravity it will almost want to shoot itself backup even higher than it was at its previous state just to repeat the whole scenario over once again. kind of like a slow moving jackhammer

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All I can say to this is, "It sounds awful familiar" and I could not have said it better.

Ralph

[rounder]

More like the peacocks Head going up and then down-- than its tail feathers i am sure of this.-- good work might i say - the news sounds --------------LIKE TO MUCH TO HEAR ----------- id like to thank you ralph and jimmy for a job than only a few could conceive .it it IT WORKS -sincerely rounder - i would like to type out a big message but i am speechless nothing to say but --- it will work --it has to - its the only way it will work. rounder -god speed

[ken_behrendt]

Ralph wrote:

I went East to Central Idaho with the intent of proceeding to Indiana if and only if I was notified that there was a need. This did not happen!

and:

At departure, I made it clear that I would only extend my trip to Indiana if I received word that I would find a wheel in runnable condition when I arrived.

So, I guess we conclude from this that James Kelly does not currently have a wheel capable of continuous rotation.


ken

[james kelly]

It runs fine KEN, that until it decides to break something. After all it is only wood. Wood can not handle the power that is available.

[graham]

James tells us :

It runs fine KEN, that until it decides to break something. After all it is only wood. Wood can not handle the power that is available.

Why would you use heavier weights than your wooden wheel can handle ?
It's like putting a 350 cu in v8 in an old Model T.

Use smaller weights .

Graham

[racer270]

.....ya..........i hate when that happens, a purest would use a Ford........:)

[james kelly]

DONEthat did that, been there,There is little glory in being at this stage. It is the Lord's Glory any way. Ralph and I are here simply by HIS Grace.Mine Here, which is ours. has turned as many as 6 turns, before it broke something. It seemingly does so with very little effort. we three shall work it out. amen

[james kelly]

RACER; FORD fix or repair daily! lol SEE you guy!

[racer270]

i detent say i would.................i love my small blocks .............:)

[1712]

Let it be known that I find James Kelly to be a very innovative person, capable of building his own wheels when his health permits. Ovyyus knows what he is talking about. Ralph

May I suggest that instead of all the name dropping and drama, that you just build a working wheel?

PS: How were things on the potato farm?

LOL

WarHammer

[Michael]

Make it out of steel, use lighter weights. Where are the problems?