Bessler's use of Gravity
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NO! IT DID NOT! jon is from where I live.. He is going to stop in.
re: Bessler's use of Gravity
I want to refer to one of Kellys statements concerning
his wheel.
Weights that are only descending,
can only mean that they are falling constantly.
This can only be achieved by centrifugal forces.
Don't think of normal gravity where a descended weight has to
to be lifted up again to repeat the process.
I think he is working on a mechanism that gets it power output
from holding the weights in a constant orbit around the center of the wheel.
I could imagin such a mechanism, where a special brake would hinder
the wheights from falling into an outer orbit,
but I do see too, that this braking mechanism
would have a repulsion force against the main direction of the wheel...
Now I wonder If Kelly is seeing that too, or if he is just ignoring this fact.
his wheel.
Weights that are only descending,
can only mean that they are falling constantly.
This can only be achieved by centrifugal forces.
Don't think of normal gravity where a descended weight has to
to be lifted up again to repeat the process.
I think he is working on a mechanism that gets it power output
from holding the weights in a constant orbit around the center of the wheel.
I could imagin such a mechanism, where a special brake would hinder
the wheights from falling into an outer orbit,
but I do see too, that this braking mechanism
would have a repulsion force against the main direction of the wheel...
Now I wonder If Kelly is seeing that too, or if he is just ignoring this fact.
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Of course I see it, but you already know that.
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Gentlemen; Do you all still think that my wheel does not work? LOL
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It's hard to tell , I would like to believe you have discovered a way but since you have only given us "claims" and no proof I lean towards a non working wheel.Gentlemen; Do you all still think that my wheel does not work? LOL
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How would we know? You post nothing on which we can base an intelligent opinion. Since so far the odds of making a working wheel are only Bessler's four wheels out of a few million that people have tried over many centruries then the probabilities say your wheel also doesn't work. This puts the burden of proof on your side of the court, Mr Kelly. Unless you can provide proof then we are left with assuming your wheel probably doesn't work. That's the bottom line.James Kelly wrote:Gentlemen; Do you all still think that my wheel does not work? LOL
One thing that bothers me is why your attitude towards us mere mortals? It gives the impression that you are just playing us us and that you're not serious.
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I wheelie wheelie believe. I got pop corn and everything. When can we see the movie?
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re: Bessler's use of Gravity
Dave wrote:
Graham asked:
James Kelly wrote:
Personally, I do hope you are able to get what you are working on now to run continuously. Even if it is not exactly what Bessler had, just the fact that such a device exists would help to stimulate research into this much discredited field and, hopefully, could lead to a major change in how we generate energy on this planet.
ken
With the huge advances in batteries in the last few years, I'm surprised that they do not now have implantable pace makers with batteries in them that are good for the life of the user. For example, there is now a Lithium halogen watch battery that will power a watch for up to 20 years. And, I think I read about a new battery that uses the beta particle emission from tritium gas to generate electricity for decades. Because of the low energy of the beta particles, these devices emit no harmful radiation into the wearer's body.I worked on an atomic powered(life time) pace maker about 30 years ago for NHI.
Graham asked:
My new Invicta "Pro Diver" watch uses their proprietary brand of luminous paint called "Tritnite". It contains no radioisotopes and is basically a strontium aluminate that is doped with traces of rare earth phosphors like europium. It is non-radioactive and non-toxic and, from just being exposed to ambient room light, will glow brightly in the dark for up to 20 hours! It is literally the brightest watch containing luminous paint that I have ever owned. I do own a Timex watch which has their "Indiglo" feature. Below the transparent dial there is a layer of tin oxide that, when the crown is pushed in, is excited by the watch's battery current and will then emit visible light. The phenomenon is known as "electroluminescence" and there are many materials that exhibit it. The problem is that one must push the crown to read the time and can only do so for about a maximum of 1 second per day if he wants the battery to last a long time.What do they use for luminous dials today?
James Kelly wrote:
I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt that you did, in fact, have a working device in the past. But, from the posts in this thread, it seems to me that you do not, for one reason or another, have a working wheel at present.Gentlemen; Do you all still think that my wheel does not work? LOL
Personally, I do hope you are able to get what you are working on now to run continuously. Even if it is not exactly what Bessler had, just the fact that such a device exists would help to stimulate research into this much discredited field and, hopefully, could lead to a major change in how we generate energy on this planet.
ken
On 7/6/06, I found, in any overbalanced gravity wheel with rotation rate, ω, axle to CG distance d, and CG dip angle φ, the average vertical velocity of its drive weights is downward and given by:
Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
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you just spend to much time braying and boasting to have a working wheeljames kelly wrote:Gentlemen; Do you all still think that my wheel does not work? LOL
i don't know it could be that thats a circular thing
i think the only working wheel around you're place is the one that's bouncing around lose inside you're noggin
the uneducated
if your gona be dumb you gota be tough
Who need drugs when you can have fatigue toxins and caffeine
if your gona be dumb you gota be tough
Who need drugs when you can have fatigue toxins and caffeine
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Is there anyone in the whole wide world who you would show what you have?
Maybe one person?
I know two well respected judges who have respect of many people.
Would you show what you have to them under legal oath?
How about Someone in the Patent office. I also have a name for you.
Then there is many people in Indiana who are also respected for their honesty.
Whatdayathik???
Or are all of us just a bunch of jerks that are trying to get you to show us your ideas, and you cant get any respect!
Sometimes I think your brother may be Rodney Dangerfield.
Maybe one person?
I know two well respected judges who have respect of many people.
Would you show what you have to them under legal oath?
How about Someone in the Patent office. I also have a name for you.
Then there is many people in Indiana who are also respected for their honesty.
Whatdayathik???
Or are all of us just a bunch of jerks that are trying to get you to show us your ideas, and you cant get any respect!
Sometimes I think your brother may be Rodney Dangerfield.
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Note from admin: Why? James, you are trying my patience.
Note from admin: Why? James, you are trying my patience.
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"Gentlemen; Do you all still think that my wheel does not work? LOL"
That's right kelly. You don't have a working device now, nor in the past either.
LOL.
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That's right kelly. You don't have a working device now, nor in the past either.
LOL.
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re: Bessler's use of Gravity
Yaaaawwn...
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At least he responded with something that we can understand!
It time for a new topic.
It time for a new topic.
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quote from wheeler:
I know two well respected judges who have respect of many people.
Would you show what you have to them under legal oath?
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i detent know there was suck a thing.......!
ask to see there "bar card"..........i bet IT'S not signed.....!
90% + of all attorneys don't sign them, SO....they are practicing LAW , with out a valid licence....!!!
thy do this so you cant sue them......under the US. CONSTATATION..
for violating their oath...
and judges......are members of the bar......!
ps. ask to see his bar card, and check if it is signed.........on the back..!!!
and please post what you find...... WHEELER.......:)
I know two well respected judges who have respect of many people.
Would you show what you have to them under legal oath?
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i detent know there was suck a thing.......!
ask to see there "bar card"..........i bet IT'S not signed.....!
90% + of all attorneys don't sign them, SO....they are practicing LAW , with out a valid licence....!!!
thy do this so you cant sue them......under the US. CONSTATATION..
for violating their oath...
and judges......are members of the bar......!
ps. ask to see his bar card, and check if it is signed.........on the back..!!!
and please post what you find...... WHEELER.......:)