Bessler's use of Gravity

[mickegg]

Any way to get this program to use Autocad files.

Yes

I've downloaded this software to have a peek (still getting to grips with 2D at the moment!) and from the Tutorial Guide the following is taken:

CAD Integration and Associativity
The following exercises illustrate how you can add motion to a model that has been created in a CAD software package. You can create CAD assemblies in such a way that they map into your MSC.visualNastran Desktop application very cleanly. When you design assemblies with “motion in mind,” they can be imported easily and their motion simulated immediately.

In these exercises, you will add motion to an assembly that has been fitted together with no regard to motion. Although you will have to clean up a few constraints in the imported CAD model, MSC.visualNastran Desktop makes it easy to simulate the motion of the assembly.

You can follow the steps in this exercise using any of the supported CAD packages — Autodesk® Inventor, Autodesk Mechanical Desktop® , Pro/ENGINEER®, Solid EdgeTM , or SolidWorks®. Go to the section for your CAD package and follow the steps


However, it does not appear that one can save /load /import or export
from the evaluation copy.......not from first glances anyway.

Mick

[1712]

I've read some things and done some thinking...

Maybe a mechanical PMM wheel isn't such a crackpot idea after all.


Had an idea for a wheel mechanism where the effect of gravity is equal (or in effect, turned off) everywhere except for in one quadrant.

Someone make fun of me so I don't get hooked on this madness.


War Hammer

[murilo]

One more infected! rsrsrsss...
Welcome on board, 1712!
Cheers... M.
'' Inventor is the guy that can not avoid the invention''.

[james kelly]

Let us not have any controversy on this thread.

[scott]

Tell the truth and there will be no controversy.

[james kelly]

In here , The truth is circumstantial and I no longer wish to have the problems that seem to go with it until problems with it are solved. J. L. Kelly

[scott]

LOL "The truth" is not "circumstantial" unless it is your own tongue wagging. It's called lying.

You do not have a working wheel and you need to admit it soon or face the consequences.

-Scott

[james kelly]

I do not have a running wheel.James L. Kelly

[james kelly]

Jon: In light of what Is Going On here, I rescind my offer of you stopping by. jim kelly This is an announcement made in public!

[bluesgtr44]

or face the consequences.

...????????

[rlortie]

or face the consequences

. ...?????????????

I agree Steve.

Where as the design in question is a combined effort including myself, the consequences of James stating he did have a running wheel could also cause ...????????

Ralph

[scott]

Sorry Ralph and Steve, it's just that this thread is approaching 50 pages now, and way too much of it is wasted on bickering back and forth about James' bogus claims. As moderator it was time for me to step into the fray and make sure that there is at least some level of honesty here.

I do not have a running wheel.James L. Kelly

There, thank you. Now we can finally move on and talk about your *design* in a meaningful and productive way.

Jon: In light of what Is Going On here, I rescind my offer of you stopping by.

James, if you want to take out your anger at me on Jon that is your prerogative. But is does not speak well of your own opinion of your design.

[rlortie]

Scott,

I acknowledge your above post. Thank you!

James, if you want to take out your anger at me on Jon that is your prerogative. But is does not speak well of your own opinion of your design.

There is a three man team involved here, none of us can substantiate anything with out breaking our oath of confidence. I see no relation between rescinding Jon's invitation regarding a design that is not in sole proprietorship of JK. It therefore does not bear on personal opinion regarding the design of this machine.

Speaking for myself and having discussed this with James, I have no problem making a donation to Jon's ongoing task of assisting those in need. But obviously now is not the time to approach this issue.

I have stated before that IMO, we have a design that meets the requirements set forth in Johns Collins published interpretation of Bessler's descriptions.

For those interested I suggest a reread of:

Â’And are ye yet without understanding?Â’
Poetica Apologia – Wheel Clues – Copyright John Collins

And a thank you to Preston Stroud for putting together a condensed version for ready reference.

The answers are there and the translation is with clarity! To solve the puzzle the following reference must be weighed with the same open mind given to Johns version, for they are not in total agreement, together they have much to offer:

Das Triumphirende Perpetuum Mobile Orffyreanum
Johann Bessler, Kassel, 1719, pp. 16-23
Provided by Al Bacon
Translation by Ted of Chicago

This thread could go on for another 50 pages but nothing more will be gained until we either solve our structural/mechanical problems or announce defeat. it took Bessler ten years, give us a couple of months.

Now if someone would be so kind as to add an epitaph to this thread and the moderator bury it, James and I agree to give them our blessings!

Ralph

[JohnnyD]

I absolutely agree. The purpose of this forum is the exchange of ideas & various progress of individuals. Let's leave the bickering out and keep to what the spirit of the forum is about.

I enjoy reading about ideas people have tried, but get very bored with all the disagreements that seem to take over in a thread and last for several pages.

Just my opinion.

JohnnyD

[ken_behrendt]

Well, at least we now know, with doubt, that James Kelly does not currently have a working wheel.

Unfortunately, I must also agree that unless the details of what he does have can be revealed for the board members' perusal and comment, then little more can be achieve in this thread. One can only play guessing games for so long until they become tedious and boring. It's time to move on...


ken