Is the Jet Stream broken?

[Wheeler]

Thought someone may see the same pattern of broken Jet Stream flow as I do.
The circle of motion seems to be broken, and I wonder if it is because of us.
You can see it clearest today at.
http://virga.sfsu.edu/crws.html
Click on the images of the different views from satellite images

Below is the link for the National Center for Atmospheric Research
http://www.ncar.ucar.edu/
It is a very good source for Atmospheric understanding.

[Wheeler]

Here is another image of the jet stream today.
I may be wrong, but something seems wrong with this picture.

I know we are putting heat into the air, and I accept this just like any person concerned with the whole picture. Im saying maybe we should be concerned Not just about our SUV in the parking lot, or why our cell phones loose reception when we paid a big sign up fee.

Just because the auto makers now have it so comfortable for us inside the cab that we simply enjoy the ride.
Yes that smell in your cab when the person ahead of you accelerates up the on ramp is indeed unburned fuel from his engine. You have an exhaust pipe too, and it sticks out the back of your car!

Spend one hour inside a closed room with your exhaust system in action, and you may reconsider that we need a new approach to filling the room (the atmosphere) with heat and Carbon Monoxide gas, It will stop a life.
The advertisement for automobiles make it look like a car or truck is the best of life for us.

Can we think past the comfort of the cab and how cool we look when we pull in to our friends house?

Any thoughts on this?

edit: could not upload again. Go to California Weather Service to see todays jet stream.

[winkle]

Wheeler

this is not much different than a lot of other things

each person is just waiting for others to make the sacrifices that are required

we will always find a reason not to act on our own

after all there are still many folks that have their heads buried butt deep in the mud about this issue

action on this problem will be happen when action is forced on us not before

perhaps when New York is an artificial reef we will notice there is a problem


http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/12/134791.php

[Wheeler]

Thanks Winkle
I don't know if everyone waits till they are forced, but your right, it is human nature to relax until you need to act on something uncomfortable.

By the way did you read the comments at the bottom of the page you linked?

[winkle]

no i didn't

but i have now

very interesting

kind of sneaky how that was not in the article

thanks for pointing that out

[Wheeler]

winkle
Thanks for the link and your thoughts on the matter.
I too am guilty of waste and not knowing exactly what is the best approach to helping make changes.

I firmly believe we are about to see a major change in the next few years.
With everyone working on Besslers rebirth of his machine, and many more people working on different theories, we can move it forward.

We seem to be at the edge of a wakeup call. I just hope it is not in the form of a very large wake.

[Wheeler]

The idea of a Pregnant mother taking care of herself helps the baby to be healthy is widely accepted now days by most people.

I think mother earth also should be considered everyday.

I remember when dumping oil somewhere out back after an oil change, was common practice for homeowners and shops.

Imagine now if 200 oil changes were within 200 households where 200 wells were used for water.

The water would show the oil in a short while depending on how deep, and the proximity of the spill.

I will try to upload a heat chart from this link.

2007 To Be Warmest Year Yet, Say UK Forecasters
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 080024.htm

[Kirk]

we live for 60 years and think we understand what is normal in our environment.
We are more like a colt born in a storm. We think thunder is natural.

The only way I know to get a grasp of what is normal over a longer range is to look to history, and not the "history" of experts and ice corings and other things I may or may not understand thoroughly enough.
What we can rely on more assuredly is social and agricultural history. In the time of the Roman occupation of Britain wine was made in central England. It is so cold now that you can attempt viniculture south of London and pray for a good year. So global warming is just us returning to what was. Not worth getting excited about.

[winkle]

Kirk wrote

So global warming is just us returning to what was. Not worth getting excited about.

Russian roulette

A stunt in which one spins the cylinder of a revolver loaded with only one bullet, aims the muzzle at one's head, and pulls the trigger.

An act of reckless bravado


will you play Russian roulette with me I’m bored playing by myself

[Wheeler]

Kirk
It is known that People are polluting the atmosphere and I hear you say don't get excited.
If you had a sickness, and I said to you don't get too excited about it, would you not look for a cure?
Seems a little careless to just say don't get excited about.
Have you seen any of the facts?

I am not saying we get hyped up for fun, just look at the findings. The research of these scientist do keep the history, and by doing this they can use facts to understand the seriousness of mass amounts pollution going into the atmosphere.

[jim_mich]

Wheeler,
Forty years ago a brown dark haze used to hang over big cities. This is now pretty much gone. I bought my first car in 1964. I was 17 and had never been into a big city. So one winter Saturday a friend and I decided to drive the 70+ miles into Detroit. As we got closer the air turned to a dirty brown and the smoky stench about gagged us. Many factories and homes where burning coal and the smoke hung in the winter air. Thousands of smoky autos clogged the streets.

It was around this time that Lake Erie caught fire. The Raisin River that runs through my home town used to have turds and toilet paper floating in it.

Today our skies are clear and our rivers and lakes are clean. You can breathe the Detroit air without making your throat and lungs hurt. Yes, people still pollute the air and water but it's nothing like it was 40 years ago. I don't think it's something to get excited about. When Lake Erie and the Cuyahoga River caught fire, now that was something to get excited about.

The world's weather moves in cycles. Humans affect it very little. I'll gladly take the recent mild winter weather over sub zero (below -18ºC) waist deep snow of 40 or 50 years ago.

[MrTim]

Forty years ago a brown dark haze used to hang over big cities. This is now pretty much gone. I bought my first care in 1964. I was 17 and had never been into a big city. So one winter Saturday a friend and I decided to drive the 70+ miles into Detroit. As we got closer the air turned to a dirty brown and the smoky stench about gagged us. Many factories and homes where burning coal and the smoke hung in the winter air. Thousands of smoky autos clogged the streets.
...
Today our skies are clear and our rivers and lakes are clean. You can breathe the Detroit air without making your throat and lungs hurt.

Yes, because most manufacturing has moved out of US cities to countries with little or no pollution controls. :p
Actually, I could use some cold weather about now. Here I am in FL, it's humid and getting into the 80's, and the air conditioner quit.... ;)

[Wheeler]

Jim
I don't mean to act as if I was going to say the same thing as Mr.Tim, but I was about the write the obvious.
The mess you talked about near where I lived also was cleaned up!
This was because people realized it was needed.

The clean act did not happen naturally. It took realization of the facts that made it better.

[Wheeler]

Hi Scott
Is edit off for now?
I tried to change the word to to the, and it would not accept.
Thanks

EDIT by Scott:
It appears to me that edit is working fine. If not please let me know.

[jim_mich]

Edit is working.