Chas Campbell Motor

[Fletcher]

Hold onto your hair epi. There are sceptics for every design, that's the way it is. You are holding Chas by the elbow, have filming rights, testing rights. You are in control here. FWIW my advice would be just try to anticipate the questions the sceptics & supporters alike will ask about the methodology & reliability of you test kit & hope Chas doesn't turn renegade on you mate in the mean time.

Looking forward to the show & tell.

[graham]

I'm impressed with Chas and his setup, he seems genuine .I like the old geezer.

The whole setup looks quite "Rube Goldberg" and weird though, so I'm on the fence with this one till we get more detailed information.

Graham

[winkle]

it kinda looks like a lemon / lime / strawberry / blueberry hybrid type of machine
i wonder if that would make it a PMM of the fruity kind ;)

[Jon J Hutton]

I was thinking that one of the ways many are thinking that pm is possible is to harness the energy from the puzzle of why does the kinetic energy quadruple when you double the energy. The best way to tap this exponentiation is to put into motion several wheels and then bleed off this kenetic energy. If chas did this he may have beat many to the finish line first.

JJH

[epistemologicide]

Thanks guys,

Also can you all post some questions for me to ask him, lets say Ten of the most important questions you would ask any one who 'thinks/has whatever' they have PM down, ill ask him and report back.

Also he has never heard of Bessler, should we forgive him :)?

[coylo]

I appreciate what your trying to do Epi, but I have to be honest and tell that your attitude stinks. I couldn't work with you and would not recommend anyone else to either. If you don't get your way, you behave like a spoilt child.
I recall that you came from a privileged background, so money was never a problem and may never be a problem. So you can afford to be "philanthropic" and an all round admirable guy to many a poster here, but I find you quite gullible, and quite frankly idiotic in your approach to things.

Posting up pictures of you getting your man-boobs out (moobs) and indecently exposing yourself in a tit-for-tat spat in another forum is the kind of behaviour I would not want to be associated with!

I don't have a problem with people trying to gain financially from intellectual property rights after POP. The important thing is that it is found, and the knowledge shared!

[ovyyus]

Epi, this is the only question I can think of asking him:

When will you allow independent replication of the working design?

IMO, until someone can successfully replicate his device then it's all just hot air and waving hands. Just because he 100% believes, obviously doesn't make him right.

Be very careful taking hot air balloon rides with genuine and likable old fellas. My personal experience with Robert Adams, who was certainly likable and a complete believer, taught me well that nice old blokes can be totally wrong. Good luck in the muck :)

[rlortie]

Epi,

You wrote:

Also can you all post some questions for me to ask him, lets say Ten of the most important questions you would ask any one who 'thinks/has whatever' they have PM down, ill ask him and report back

1. You are in Australia, What is the common household current used there, is it 50 or 60 cycle AC? 110, 208, or some other voltage rating.

2. With the above known factors, what is the rating: voltage, Amps, Watts of the initial drive motor.

3. What is the output of the generator in volts, Amps, cycles and rated time allowed for 100+ % duty cycle.

4. He shows a light bulb, a fan, a drill and a chop saw all running at once, but only briefly. How long will all these run and what is the combined draw in Amps or Watts?

5. His gravity wheel; which I will refer to as an energy amplifier, what is the dimensions,weight, and how does it work? Or is it simply a kinetic energy container (flywheel) like a capacitor for electricity?

These are my five questions that I would ask of him, if the answers were valid and substantiated by a witness such as yourself then I would be interested in delving deeper with more follow-up.

Thank you!

Ralph

[epistemologicide]

coylo, you dont know SXXT so go dry hump some thing mate. I dont need your help or negative opinions nether does Chas, if you want me to tell you again it wont be so nice next time old man, the crap that comes out of your mouth isnt funny, in fact your lucky you post it on a forum SON. VERY lucky.

K.

ovyyus obviously has the right idea, Ill ask him that but..ill put that question separate to the 10, i was hoping they were going to Technical Q's like Ralph's.Ask him about PM! come on guys, where is every one stuck? (i know thats a very general Q)

Now Ralph based on our testing we will do ill answer for you

>1. You are in Australia, What is the common household current used there, is it 50 or 60 cycle AC? 110, 208, or some other voltage rating.

Answer, we have 50 (its not as efficient as 60!) in Australia,

>2. With the above known factors, what is the rating: voltage, Amps, Watts of the initial drive motor.

ralph we will be using his 3/4 HP 800 WATT motor through an inverter and battery to measure DC in, and also DC out. This will be an analog meter and digital meter in a series. No BS measure.

ill get his specs off the motor for you


>3. What is the output of the generator in volts, Amps, cycles and rated time allowed for 100+ % duty cycle.

the out put will be run into a FWBR (to create DC out) and be in A LIGHT LOAD, where we MEASURE THE WIRES. into the lights. He has a 3.5kva (3500 watts) alternator, ill have to measure it and get the specs for you

>4. He shows a light bulb, a fan, a drill and a chop saw all running at once, but only briefly. How long will all these run and what is the combined draw in Amps or Watts?

thats a good question, im told it swings in and out of OU, why? cause his wheel isnt balanced and AIR and Temp effect PM! yes thats his words not mine just for the record, now, his new design apparently stops the design from going in and out of OU, apparently it only last while how long i don't know ill ASK him.

>5. His gravity wheel; which I will refer to as an energy amplifier, what is the dimensions,weight, and how does it work? Or is it simply a kinetic energy container (flywheel) like a capacitor for electricity?

TV one is OPERATED like that in his motor Gen, but the PRINCIPLE IS PERPETUAL MOTION FROM GRAVITY. His new design is a relay concept based on GRAVITY feeding the device.

Ill ask him for you

[ovyyus]

...if you want me to tell you again it wont be so nice next time old man, the crap that comes out of your mouth isnt funny, in fact your lucky you post it on a forum SON. VERY lucky.

There you go sounding like a real wanker again. I think it's about time you had a little more respect for the opinions of others, negative or otherwise, and stopped threatening people with dumb little nothings like you're some bigshot with reach.

Coylo is a respected member here and his opinion is always welcome, by me at least, even if it is a little pointy at times. Nothing wrong with pointy :D

I think you owe coylo an apology.

[rlortie]

Epi,

>1. You are in Australia, What is the common household current used there, is it 50 or 60 cycle AC? 110, 208, or some other voltage rating.

Answer, we have 50 (its not as efficient as 60!) in Australia

,

OK! You answered the first part with 50 cycle, but you missed the voltage.
To run a comparison test Voltage input is a must to calculate line loss through a closed circuit.

>2. With the above known factors, what is the rating: voltage, Amps, Watts of the initial drive motor.

ralph we will be using his 3/4 HP 800 WATT motor through an inverter and battery to measure DC in, and also DC out. This will be an analog meter and digital meter in a series. No BS measure.

There are 746 watts in one horsepower a 3/4 horse motor should pull 559.5 watts. Voltage is still not mentioned, in a D-C circuit the power (P) may be computed by multiplying the voltage (E) by the current (I) where E is in volts, I in amperes and )(P) in watts.

ill get his specs off the motor for you

Thank you! although you state: 3/4 horse power, 800 watt this leave the Amp to Volt ratio unkown. Once again I refer back to (DC in and DC out). Example 800 watts at 14 volts means 57.142 Amps! It would take #6 size wire to carry such a load without serious line loss!

>3. What is the output of the generator in volts, Amps, cycles and rated time allowed for 100+ % duty cycle.

the out put will be run into a FWBR (to create DC out) and be in A LIGHT LOAD, where we MEASURE THE WIRES. into the lights. He has a 3.5kva (3500 watts) alternator, ill have to measure it and get the specs for you

Not familiar with the acronym "FWBR" (to create DC out). I presume that light bulbs will be used wired in parallel to measure a constant unchanging draw. 15 100 watt light bulbs is an equivalent draw at 110 volts of 15 amps which is what Eric kreig requires to qualify for his prize.

A 15 amp at 110 volt is the standard household lighting circuit used here in the USA. This requires #14 gauge wire. New homes are now wired with #12 gauge and 20 Amp breakers due to the advent of ever increasing technoligy in household usage.

>4. He shows a light bulb, a fan, a drill and a chop saw all running at once, but only briefly. How long will all these run and what is the combined draw in Amps or Watts?

thats a good question, im told it swings in and out of OU, why? cause his wheel isnt balanced and AIR and Temp effect PM! yes thats his words not mine just for the record, now, his new design apparently stops the design from going in and out of OU, apparently it only last while how long i don't know ill ASK him.

Caution here! We just heard the excuse that heat from display lights caused the downfall of the Steorn device. Any electrical or mechanical device that is indorsed by a qualtity control association such as NEMA or Under Writers Lab. carry a temperature rating sticker.

Remember we still do not know what the drill and chop saw power requirements are. You are leading me to believe they are DC powered which leads to the question of permanent magnet stators!

I beg of you, quit quibbling with the skeptics, you tend to leave the impression that you are not skilled in electrical behavior and are avoiding the technical data such as knowledge of Kirchhoff (Gustav Robert) Two major laws regarding currents and emf's in a circuit.

Ralph

[rlortie]

Epi,

Ovyyus wrote:

There you go sounding like a real wanker again. I think it's about time you had a little more respect for the opinions of others, negative or otherwise, and stopped threatening people with dumb little nothings like you're some bigshot with reach.

I must agree as you are not helping the image of:
http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/index.htm
Which you have worked so hard to build.

Rather than make such statements, load your six shooters with substantial facts and then meet your opponents head on. Leave the personal indifferences at home!

Ralph

[docfeelsgood]

IMO i hope Chas comes to his senses and dumps his worthless excess baggage and that the Wanker is left to find PM on his own swung from the tip of the bowsprit !!!

[coylo]

Good point Ralph.
Some how I don't think Epi sits on the PR board of Panacea.
He'd be a public relations nightmare!

[DrWhat]

240V mains in Australia

(I'm a man of few words!)