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Epi wrote:...if you want me to tell you again it wont be so nice next time old man, the crap that comes out of your mouth isnt funny, in fact your lucky you post it on a forum SON. VERY lucky.
There you go sounding like a real wanker again. I think it's about time you had a little more respect for the opinions of others, negative or otherwise, and stopped threatening people with dumb little nothings like you're some bigshot with reach.

Coylo is a respected member here and his opinion is always welcome, by me at least, even if it is a little pointy at times. Nothing wrong with pointy :D

I think you owe coylo an apology.
Listen up dXXk head, for starters Coylo is like some stalking estranged female , who bitches and moans and speaks absolute shit, some one who tryed to track me down on the internet just for negativity and just shot his mouth of and did useless negative comments in this thread lol

dont tell me to respect that DXXK HEAD, respect is earnt not given, you seem to like to shoot your mouth off too mate hey?

your the same way mate so you can follow him, ill leave you out mate,
plus i know you mate twice your my age, you are they same as him a bitter old fart.

Now i dont respect you or him, with negative feedback and comments, you wanna come in this thread and bitch mate, and have nothing to contribute like the other old fart dXXk head, who is like you lucky your speaking crap on a forum, maybe you both need a hobby


I wouldn't take up PM cause you both obviously know SXXT.
your in tassy? mate ill PM you what i look like., and how old i am.
Now , Yeah mate im a former body builder and half your age, so you wanna call me a wanker with no REACH for attempting to keep negative feed backs out of this thread and to only permit contribution then SON
lets see you have a go SON.you can PM me any time mate,

other wise mate both of you tweedle dumbs and tweedle even dopier can keep your negative feedback,and not contribution, OUT OF THIS THREAD.
Pm, me you old farts we can sort this out. You guys are out of the loop its simple no more for oyu both to hear here, any one else?

let me know
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rlortie wrote:Epi,

Ovyyus wrote:
There you go sounding like a real wanker again. I think it's about time you had a little more respect for the opinions of others, negative or otherwise, and stopped threatening people with dumb little nothings like you're some bigshot with reach.
I must agree as you are not helping the image of:
http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/index.htm
Which you have worked so hard to build.

Rather than make such statements, load your six shooters with substantial facts and then meet your opponents head on. Leave the personal indifferences at home!

Ralph
Ralph, ill stick to my Guns mate

I will exclude any one with negative feedback and no contribution, if you dont like that, mate then you can go the same way. I have keept Dxxk heads out of the NPO this way.

I dont take kindly to lack of contribution and negative feed back, if you dont like that mate i don't really care,

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docfeelsgood wrote:IMO i hope Chas comes to his senses and dumps his worthless excess baggage and that the Wanker is left to find PM on his own swung from the tip of the bowsprit !!!
I suggest you take up a hobby like Bill and coylo, you can be excluded too , any one else shoot your mouth off mate.
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well epi , you should always stop and ask yourself one question ! DO YOU FEEL LUCKY ???
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rlortie wrote:Epi,
>1. You are in Australia, What is the common household current used there, is it 50 or 60 cycle AC? 110, 208, or some other voltage rating.

Answer, we have 50 (its not as efficient as 60!) in Australia
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OK! You answered the first part with 50 cycle, but you missed the voltage.
To run a comparison test Voltage input is a must to calculate line loss through a closed circuit.
>2. With the above known factors, what is the rating: voltage, Amps, Watts of the initial drive motor.

ralph we will be using his 3/4 HP 800 WATT motor through an inverter and battery to measure DC in, and also DC out. This will be an analog meter and digital meter in a series. No BS measure.
There are 746 watts in one horsepower a 3/4 horse motor should pull 559.5 watts. Voltage is still not mentioned, in a D-C circuit the power (P) may be computed by multiplying the voltage (E) by the current (I) where E is in volts, I in amperes and )(P) in watts.
ill get his specs off the motor for you
Thank you! although you state: 3/4 horse power, 800 watt this leave the Amp to Volt ratio unkown. Once again I refer back to (DC in and DC out). Example 800 watts at 14 volts means 57.142 Amps! It would take #6 size wire to carry such a load without serious line loss!
>3. What is the output of the generator in volts, Amps, cycles and rated time allowed for 100+ % duty cycle.

the out put will be run into a FWBR (to create DC out) and be in A LIGHT LOAD, where we MEASURE THE WIRES. into the lights. He has a 3.5kva (3500 watts) alternator, ill have to measure it and get the specs for you


Not familiar with the acronym "FWBR" (to create DC out). I presume that light bulbs will be used wired in parallel to measure a constant unchanging draw. 15 100 watt light bulbs is an equivalent draw at 110 volts of 15 amps which is what Eric kreig requires to qualify for his prize.

A 15 amp at 110 volt is the standard household lighting circuit used here in the USA. This requires #14 gauge wire. New homes are now wired with #12 gauge and 20 Amp breakers due to the advent of ever increasing technoligy in household usage.
>4. He shows a light bulb, a fan, a drill and a chop saw all running at once, but only briefly. How long will all these run and what is the combined draw in Amps or Watts?

thats a good question, im told it swings in and out of OU, why? cause his wheel isnt balanced and AIR and Temp effect PM! yes thats his words not mine just for the record, now, his new design apparently stops the design from going in and out of OU, apparently it only last while how long i don't know ill ASK him.
Caution here! We just heard the excuse that heat from display lights caused the downfall of the Steorn device. Any electrical or mechanical device that is indorsed by a qualtity control association such as NEMA or Under Writers Lab. carry a temperature rating sticker.

Remember we still do not know what the drill and chop saw power requirements are. You are leading me to believe they are DC powered which leads to the question of permanent magnet stators!

I beg of you, quit quibbling with the skeptics, you tend to leave the impression that you are not skilled in electrical behavior and are avoiding the technical data such as knowledge of Kirchhoff (Gustav Robert) Two major laws regarding currents and emf's in a circuit.

Ralph
Okay UPDATE.

Ralph ill get to your Questions in a sec,

Chas has almost finished his PM wheel, it will have 12 numbered 'snooker or pool' balls, in it, it will have NO motor generator on it, this is just to prove that PM via gravity (and his idea is so it can give credibility to his ability to create a PM wheel, and thus convince people that he can produce POWER)

Ill be filming it working, then getting Chas to OPEN the wheel up to prove there is no DC gen. [ill still be measuring his other set up]

Ill pan the camera all the way around, and inside, he still wants to hide what he is doing until he gets recognition and grants, yes i know dont go there am working on it.

Ill also be asking him some Questions on PM for you guys,
Now the thing is, he has stated to me on the phone last night


YOU CANNOT make a wheel turn and Drive some thing DRECTLY
! all of you going down the road of making a wheel turn then LOADING it directly WILL NOT WORK.

he said PM is a joke, its easy, but you have to have other skills to make it Generate power, PM is easy! but making it power is another. [end quote]

Now one of his secrets is in his drive motor, he doesn't load it via a pully to its RATED RPM, ie if you make a wheel and need a drive system (as according to him you wil need to) you dont LOAD the pulley at what the motors rated at, ie, if the motor is rated at 1750 RPM, you make its LOAD 1600 etc.

His system will show the relay system of the pool balls, and you will see each on come through a section on the wheel, ill have a digital meter on and get him to open his wheel up,

We are still going to measure his system via this method.

FWBR -> digital ampmeter -> analog ampmeter -> lightbulb(s)

In parallel to the lamp(s)
one digital voltmeter
one analog voltmeter

At the output of the FWBR a big electrolytic capacitor (with voltage
breakdown reserve) to smooth out ripple and make DC.

At the inverter input do the same thing using both analog and digital
meters simultaneously. You can use an ampmeter at the battery, but measure voltage right at the inverter,otherwise the wires between battery and inverter could (WILL !) drop the
voltage.

so Ralph we measure the WIRES going INTO the lights i can be very ANAL too and use a caloric meter to measure the heat and freq of them, but the lamp wires are enough.

Jon J Hutton, ill ask Chas that Quesiton for you, keep them coming.

Ralph

>It would take #6 size wire to carry such a load without serious line loss!

We measure from the BATTERY going into the INVERTER.

>FWBR

Forward Wave Bridge Rectifier
And ralph you told me i appear as i dont know electronics mate seriously get a grip


>Remember we still do not know what the drill and chop saw power requirements are. You are leading me to believe they are DC powered which leads to the question of permanent magnet stators!


Ralph we are not using that load, we are avoiding the doubt by the system i mentioned above.

>I beg of you, quit quibbling with the skeptics, you tend to leave the impression that you are not skilled in electrical behavior and are avoiding the technical data such as knowledge of Kirchhoff (Gustav Robert) Two major laws regarding currents and emf's in a circuit.


Do i really need to answer that Ralph , mate i think i don't, any one gives negative feedback, or no contribution in this thread then they can deal with my short fuse.I dont have a tolerance for skeptics or rudness, lack of contribution and or sarcasm. And i back that up any time mate
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It's like dealing with the soup nazi from Seinfeld - NO SOUP FOR YOU TODAY! What a dope :D

Sounds like you're getting a bit threatening there Ep, like you might come pay me a visit and do me some bodily harm - is that right? You gonna come down here and smack me around a little bit? LMAO
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So far Epi you have been abusive, obscene, vulgar, hateful, and threatening. And this is not the first time.

Epi, I am hereby warning you to take a more civil tone immediately. You will be banned from the forum on your next infraction.
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DrWhat,
240V mains in Australia
Thank you! I was believing I would never get the answer from the requested source!

Now with this quote I am really scratching my head!
Now one of his secrets is in his drive motor, he doesn't load it via a pully to its RATED RPM, ie if you make a wheel and need a drive system (as according to him you wil need to) you dont LOAD the pulley at what the motors rated at, ie, if the motor is rated at 1750 RPM, you make its LOAD 1600 etc.
HELP Me OUT here!

Load the pulley???? An induction motor a synchronous motor not unlike a Squirrel Cage as well as a repulsion motor with a 90 degree lag all have one thing in common. Their rated rpm is based on number of poles and cycles fed into it. It is going to turn at its rated RPM no matter what size of pulley is used providing it is not over loaded, not underloaded.

How does one make a load for a specified RPM that is less than the motor is wired for? I can not see where pulley size plays a roll in motor rpm. Such a motor is said to provide maximum torque at zero rpm, and this I can grasp. I would not want to leave it that way for very long.

Sorry Epi, I am trying to be on your side for the benifit of doubt but this is getting to deep for my shallow brain.

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scott wrote:
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So far Epi you have been abusive, obscene, vulgar, hateful, and threatening. And this is not the first time.

Epi, I am hereby warning you to take a more civil tone immediately. You will be banned from the forum on your next infraction.
yeah docfeelsgood i do feel lucky mate, PM me, and Bill, mate you know what im saying, im saying you guys that sit on the internet and shoot your mouths off and waste peoples time and have nothing to contribute, would and should KNOW how i would deal with you in REAL life.

thats all im saying mate. Sit there and have a good laugh , i think its funny too. Mate seriously, try living in the real world , you will get a shock.

And scott, im far from impressed, people come i here try and waste my time and TRY and abuse me when i react you make me out to be the bad guy well scott,, you know what you can do ,mate.

I told you i have zero tolerance for people that have nothing to contribute and just shoot heir mouth off, you are far from Fair scott, so what ill do, ill just refrain from sharing my data here.

that way you can be the man scott, and let bessler wheel forum miss out on the first real working wheel.

I think you all have allot to learn.
live and learn,

The people who i i have chosen to be WORTHY enough , i will share the information with you separate to this forum. I would make sure oyu remind me as this place is far from on my mind.

It wont make its way on here, im far from impressed with this crowd, none of them are fair, and seem to like each others abuse, and need to elevate them selfs from defaming others.

When i ask them to back it up, scotty boy comes in and wants to ban me for defending myself, and because i'm stating that no contribution's is not welcomed in this thread.

Why cause i have information and wish to share technical details and not deal with CRAP.

Look scott I think i need to worry now about objective avenues ,i dont find them here, i find a bunch of self absorbed old farts, wiht NOTHING to contribute that seem to think they can piss me off.

You have given me the shits scott, Ill move on i have better things to do.

have fun all

No i wont be back.
So DONT ASK.

Live and learn.

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rlortie wrote:DrWhat,
240V mains in Australia
Thank you! I was believing I would never get the answer from the requested source!

Now with this quote I am really scratching my head!
Now one of his secrets is in his drive motor, he doesn't load it via a pully to its RATED RPM, ie if you make a wheel and need a drive system (as according to him you wil need to) you dont LOAD the pulley at what the motors rated at, ie, if the motor is rated at 1750 RPM, you make its LOAD 1600 etc.
HELP Me OUT here!

Load the pulley???? An induction motor a synchronous motor not unlike a Squirrel Cage as well as a repulsion motor with a 90 degree lag all have one thing in common. Their rated rpm is based on number of poles and cycles fed into it. It is going to turn at its rated RPM no matter what size of pulley is used providing it is not over loaded, not underloaded.

How does one make a load for a specified RPM that is less than the motor is wired for? I can not see where pulley size plays a roll in motor rpm. Such a motor is said to provide maximum torque at zero rpm, and this I can grasp. I would not want to leave it that way for very long.

Sorry Epi, I am trying to be on your side for the benefit of doubt but this is getting to deep for my shallow brain.

Ralph
before i go,

Ralph, he means the LOAD, so make it a lesser RATING, IE

If THE motor is 1750 RPM and is 3/4 HP power rated
Put a Belt and pulley on that isn't LOADED at 3/4HP and needs to go as fast as 1750 per load, IE, wont matter if it spins the same RPM, just doesn't NEED too , to get the desired efficiency from an Iduction motor

Ralph he is trying to tell us thaT the secret in his system and for electric motors is to LOAD them this way.

Its vague i know but what he stated is the result of his drive motor pulling the PM wheel into OU as part of the power ratio.

Ill have this part on film, and be talking to him in 2 weeks, he took apart the set up which was on TV first up, he is putting it back together especially for my measurement.

Im also required to sign an NDA

any ways Im off, keep an eye on the Panacea page FOR MORE INFO, less DXXk heads there to deal with
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Well Preston, sounds like your thread here is about over with.

I just purchased a new Lincoln 175HD 220 volt Mig welder. Now I can go back to re-learning my welding skills attempting to weld 14 gauge bicycle sprockets to 3/4" hubs without burning them up. First attempt required lots of hammer forging to get the warp out of it.

Dont forget to turn out the lights and lock the door! :-)

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A classic...
Epi wrote:If i signed i would leak it out on the net ANON, then you wold have 1000's over the net replicate it. Some times you need to be more objective, as human nature is in such a bad way,
then...
Epi wrote:Im also required to sign an NDA
Sounds confusing and unclear to me. Perhaps someone should let Chas know how it is in Epi's "real world". He's in for a shock all right!

Man, I gotta get out more and learn some new stuff. The kids these days are just so far ahead of us old blokes :D
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I believe there is an old historical quote by some one famous made back in the days of the Roman empire.
[I just do not know what this next generation is coming too!]
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Poor Chas, does he have any idea of the disgusting human being he's dealing with?

I'm now living in fear incase Epi "PM's" me a picture of his biceps.
How will I sleep at night?

...sad!
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No i wont be back.
So DONT ASK.

Live and learn.

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