Let's Talk About Paulunatics.

[wikiwheel]

Why are political ads on this board?
Shouldn't this sort of thing be in the fraud section?

Mik

[jonnynet]

I noticed these ads for a few days and I would really like to know too why they're here!

Shouldn't this sort of thing be in the fraud section?

...or to be removed?

[jim_mich]

I see an ad for some clown named Ron Paul who's running for President.
Is that legal on this board? Various snooty personages get upset when anyone mentions religious beliefs (the mere mention means it it being rammed down your throat), but touting Ron Paul is OK

Scott owns and pays for this web site and he maintains the forum software, so I would think he can do what he wants to do. I share in Scott's support of this man that you call a 'clown'. I have no idea why you would call such an upstanding truthful doctor such a derogatory name. All the other politicians that continually lie to us should be in the fraud section.

[scott]

This is the first time I have ever put an ad on the board. It was a decision I did not take lightly.

As an American and as an earthling who sincerely wants the best for my country and for the whole world, I strongly believe it would be irresponsible of me if I didn't help support Ron Paul in every way I can. Between 500 and 800 people visit this forum every day. If my ad inspires just one person to find out more about Ron Paul then it is worth it.

If you believe you can influence others by calling names and inciting conflict then I say good luck to you.

If the ad bothers you that much then you are invited to use Adblock.

-Scott

[ovyyus]

Mik, you expect people to answer your questions but then you refuse to answer questions asked of you, eg:

Mik wrote in relation to JC's comment:
...That makes your athiesm belief "fair game" in a cross examination...

ovyyus responded:
Well I happen to think that everyones belief is "fair game". Surprise, surprise :D All the more so when they try to sell it at my door like a cheap used car. I certainly don't think Collins suffers from that particular problem. Clearly there are others here that do, though - you know, the ones that think they're religious belief is the only right one and that everyone else who holds a different view is wrong, or worse.

So Mik, what's the agenda here with all the prickly questions directed at Collins? I have no reason to defend Collins, he can do that well enough for himself, but I am curious. Perhaps you think your own religious belief effects your ability to understand Bessler's legacy? Do you think there is any significant meaning in the fact that Bessler promoted himself as a religious person? You might be right about these questions being relevant and on point, what do you think?

Perhaps you have issues with everything :D Either way it seems like one-way traffic to me.

[evgwheel]

Don’t take any notice of my input, I’m an outsider.
Inciting conflict (above) to me is a good thing. It makes us research, learn and hopefully see the good and bad of both sides.
Even I, who has nothing to do with your next Election, did a limited research on Ron Paul and his honesty seems to paramount, his ideology seems somewhat simple (I only did a surface research and didn’t delve into the nitty-gritty of his policies).
Scott on the other hand should have the right to publish and run his website anyway he likes. We don’t pay him to do work for us, we use him for our own benefit and if many people take offence, they will not return and try to find another site.
I for one am not offended by the advertisement. And as long as adds are not overdone, it pays for the effort put in by the owner. I don’t think your government is going to support a site for free energy (they may already know how it works)
Footnote/Question; I grow up in a time where (almost) every Australian had several guns in the house and hunting was a major sport. Now only the real bad guys have guns because the government made all guns illegal (except for soldiers who are encourage to kill other people)
GOT SIDETRACKED The question was, what are your gun laws like now.

[scott]

as long as adds are not overdone, it pays for the effort put in by the owner

Just to be clear, I'm not making any money from the ad. It is solely a political statement on my part. If I wanted to make money from ads on the site I would sign up for Google Adsense and there would be more of them. But I don't want to do that.

[wikiwheel]

Ron Paul will get about 800 votes for President.

Mik

[evgwheel]

Mike
Are you setting up bets?

[jim_mich]

Ron Paul will get about 800 votes for President.

Mik

And what make you think that?

[rlortie]

evgwheel,

what are your gun laws like now.

I can only speak for the state I live in: Oregon.

I am allowed to own as many rifles as I wish and can hang them in the back window of my pickup, providing I have an annual hunting license. I can own pistols and revolvers and pack them in plain site. A permit is required if I wish to conceal it on my person or in a vehicle but if I leave it exposed, no problem.

Shot guns must have a minimum barrel length and are treated like rifles. There are three guns in my house, one 38 caliber pistol, one 22 caliber revolver and a 308 hunting rifle. Fully automatic weapons are a no no! semi automatic is ok!

Ralph

[DrWhat]

Ok so now we are a gambling site too!! (just joking)

[scott]

Ron Paul will get about 800 votes for President.

Mik

Mik,

Even though your idea of debate is apparently to call people names and appeal to some sort of herd mentality, I will continue to respond with facts and reasoned arguments.

After Republican debates, Ron Paul:

• Won the CNN.com debate poll with 60%
• Won the ABCNews.com debate poll with 84%
• Won the C-SPAN poll with 69%
• Became a "most searched" term on Google and Yahoo
• Became the most mentioned person in blogs according to Technorati.com
• Has more YouTube subscribers than any other candidate

And Ron Paul accomplished all of this while being subjected to a near blackout in the mainstream media, which are controlled by a ruling elite who have no interest in a Paul presidency.

The reason Dr. Paul is still behind in conventional polls is because those traditional polling techniques require you to have a land line and be home at the time of the call. This excludes many if not most Paul supporters.

I challenge you to actually look into Ron Paul and what he represents. I think you'll like what you see.

The man you call a "clown" is a doctor who has delivered more than 4,000 babies and a 10-term US congressman who has worked tirelessly for a limited constitutional government, free markets, balanced budgets, and sound monetary policies. He has consistently voted against the PATRIOT Act, regulating the Internet, the RealID Act, the Military Commissions Act, and the Iraq War.

Can you say that about any other candidate? Who are the real clowns here?

-Scott

[evgwheel]

Ralph
The gun laws in Australia were changed a long time ago and since then people die here in the same number, not by accidental shootings, but more so by drive by shootings and in front of nightclubs. The gangs now don’t have to worry that a law abiding citizen will protect themselves with a gun that they no longer have.
(couldn’t get back to you, wrong email)

Ok so now we are a gambling site too!! (just joking)

I use token money only
50 to one. Ron Paul will receive more then 800.000 votes

[Gregory]

Well, for me, there is not too much to say about this...

But this Man take the stand against FDA, CODEX, and the War in Iraq.

If he can make some good changes just in these fields, that's already a good thing even for countries far from the US.