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please look at the previous post, to understand the development steps.

And the picture one is arranging the other. Rotating at the working places.


the future has begun

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I couldn't find the original postings, so I have created new ones.

Anyway, I think the new drawings explain more.

A normal pendulum weight (rotating cylinder) can be used to bring a balanced wheel out of balance.

I have made two examples for driver and runner.

DrWhat, look at the video and apply driver and runner. You will detect the
periodical oscillation. The runner is still in the wheel.

the future has begun

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Georg Künstler wrote:here are the pictures again, so you can view it in word.

one file is showing the working areas inside.

next is showing rotating in place (feedback loop)

next is showing rotating with outer force (swinging)

next is showing one is arranging the other, both are creating torque, and never are in balance again after started. The start of this swinging occurs when the distance of the supporting wheels is too short.

This is to show how it could be managed to create a swinging mechanical system.

the future has begun

Georg


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You can make it easy for us to see your images by simply using this image up load program, it is simple and free.
That is if you do really want to make it easy for everyone.
Here is the link for you.
http://www.imageshack.us
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Post by DrWhat »

Georg,

I am never able to open your images :(
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@DrWhat
Here are his last two drawings:
(I hope it is allowed to me to do this, otherwise I'll delete the links)

[edit by scott: I attached the images so they won't be lost in the future]
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Thanks Jonnynet
They open with my program.

GEORGE

You are posting the same old George stuff that we showed you could not work again why?

I suppose it gets us all to chat a little, but please do something new with your design.

It is a nice idea, but no go!

It is no more than a ratchet on a pendulum.
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Hi Jonnynet,

thanks for your help. Maybe you can show the other pictures for MrWhat too. I thought everyone has microsoft word at home, and can read my drawings.

In general, when I post drawings to the board, they are free to use for single persons( for mind collection, personal usage), not for companies.

Or in other words, an usage outside of Besslerwheel.com is not allowed.
I like to know it prior before it is printed in a newspaper. Why this, you may ask. Because some of my patents are shown in the internet and interpreted wrong.

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Hi Wheeler,
you are still looking wrong to the drawings. No affend to you. I will help you to understand what I am drawing.

1.Take a wheel and a rolling cylinder. System one.

2. Take a pendulum in your hand and drive the runner. System two.

With the pendulum, you will bring the wheel out of balance.

The hanging-point of the pendulum can also be outside of the wheel.

I will make a photo this evening to show it clearer.

the future has begun

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Post by Wheeler »

OK George
I look forward to your drawing.
However what you describe above is not enough to continue.

A pendulum acts like a brake from a center point of a spinning wheel.

You can experience this by spinning on a single rope swing.
1. sit on a board with the rope between your legs.
2. have someone spin you in a circle.
3.let your legs fly outward as you spin.
This outward motion acts as a pendulum and a brake.
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Georg wrote:you are still looking wrong to the drawings.
Who gives a crap about these same old drawings from Georg talking about the same old things from Georg. Nothing seems to have changed in the last few years of posting this rubbish. Georg, if you really knew any answers then you'd be posting photos/movies of your working designs. It's clear you don't have anything that actually works. So why pretend to know how Bessler's wheel works when it's plainly obvious that all you have are some sketches and ideas, just like the rest of us. Big deal.

Of course I'm always ready to learn and be shown the errors of my ways :)
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I see the pics J. Ta
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Wise man say... "Wheels cannot be powered by ideas alone!"
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here are the pics.

1. both cylinders down on the wheel surface, wheel is balanced.

2. one cylinder down, one cylinder hanging, wheel is unbalanced !!

the future has begun

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Post by Wheeler »

George
Nice build.
Are you planning another build?
I assume the images posted are offered as failed examples correct?

Have you considered an inverted pendulum to assist the tipping point?
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Post by Wheeler »

you may want to consider another possible addition to give it the kick needed.

What about using a Piezoelectric short high voltage spark


It is used in lighters or portable sparkers with a piezo fuze a sudden and strong pressure is used in order to produce a short high voltage. The spark then ignites the gas.

If you have found the point of TDC you may only need a small amount of power to make the future begin :)
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