The World is not ready for Perpetual Motion

[Sevich]

With terrorism on the rise and amageddon a certainty. Moderate islamic countries (Arab world included) will (in time) fall to these anti western demons this I believe with certainty.

Perpetual Motion introduced tomorrow will have a negative effect on the western world while at the same time boosting fundamentatist islamic operations, in the way of being able to operate with more ease (just one example...afghanistan) in isolated (hot / cold) locations of the world.

The world is too evil for this technology at this time.

"Portable PM machines courtesy of the western world"
Have a great war!

[coylo]

Take comfort in the fact that it would be out of your control. Like the way God has given us free will, in the same way too, we will have the choice of using this technology for good or evil.

My conscience would be clear.

Try not to be cynical, the benefits would far outweigh foreseen and un-foreseen disadvantages.

[Kirk]

Perpetual Motion introduced tomorrow will have a negative effect on the western world while at the same time boosting fundamentatist islamic operations, in the way of being able to operate with more ease (just one example...afghanistan) in isolated (hot / cold) locations of the world.

War would increase energy costs/decrease availability for the western world. Our ability to wage war will be impacted by energy shortage. Freedom from reliance on foreign oil would be a Godsend to the western world. Enough disturbance to the oil supply and we would be hard pressed to feed ourselves let alone wage military actions.

[Oxygon]

Woudn't the obsoletion of oil as a primary source of energy due to a reliable and powerful F/E tech really put the golden bullet in this "perpetual war" and put it down it for good? well most of the way...

No money, no funding = no/less weapons, etc...

Meanwhile the rest of the world cleans up its act and "Oil" becomes a dirty word...

It would really shake up the power hold that the rich have on the poor... or at least change it a little bit for the better... the Oil barrens all have golden parachutes anyway... or thats what I have heard...

I mean how much can really charge for an energy you produce at no cost...?

Maybe the cost of maintinance/upkeep...

A tech like that would be in high demand! around the world.

I dont know about the world being "not ready", maybe unworthy, gluttonous and mentally depraved...

But maybe a realible F/E technoligy would change that, (fingers crossed) but then it pretty much would anyway, right?

I dont know...

[murilo]

It's noticed that there are still oil for more 40 to 50 years...
but before the oil widows start to kry and kill, there are enough global karma duty to be acomplished. I feel and see this since many years...
not a beautiful stuff to face. M. jun/30

[AlanR]

It's noticed that there are still oil for more 40 to 50 years...

I wish....

40 or 50 years? rubbish - theoretically maybe a trickle, but once we reach "peak oil" which is now - next few years (you dont actually know until a few years after it happens) the end of CHEAP oil is with us. Prices will skyrocket and never come back down. You might get a trickle in decades to come, but at well over $100 per barrel.

Do you know what that will do to our "advanced" societies?

look up "peak oil" "hubberts peak" you will find the truth.

[joppa]

Some would say that 'Oil' is like a rope with which man hangs himself and his fellow men. I for one, can hardly imagine it's vast reservoirs existing at all without the agency of intelligent design.

[epistemologicide]

good morning people,. what we need is a greater apprecition of the energy we already have, this has been writen by me before with a solution as well, with infinite energy the peoples attitude currently would or could be counter productive ofcause.

thats why we need to write a new school ciriculum..with health, nutrients, energy conservation , natural awareness, of products etc etc...

a wheel, or the TECHNOLOGY is only 40% of the solution to humanity...

i am active in writing a new school ciriculum, and plan to organise input from past greats as david suzuki, vicktor schauberger etc etc..and with the realse of 'new' awareness, aka a bessler mechanism. i plan to use this as a platform to

STICK IT DOWN THE COMMUNITIES, AND SCIENCE PEOPLES THROATS.

the wheel is a platform, not a means to make you money, or just give some people a bit of free energy

think MORE ABOUT what we CAN DO, not what we CANT DO

[jim_mich]

A story...
I remember 8th grade science class and old Mrs Wisner teaching us that oil production had peaked and all the worlds known oil would be completely used up within 20 years. She also taught us that oil was a fossil fuel produce from ancient vegetation. That was 43 years ago!

And you know what? Everyone was a believer!

Well there are a few people today that know the truth. Oil is NOT a fossil fuel. It is a naturally occurring mineral within the top five or ten miles of the earth's surface. Most oil wells are only one or maybe two miles deep. Drive a well down five or ten miles almost anywhere on the earth and you will hit oil. Of course an oil well at that depth IS more expensive to drill and pump. But there is enough oil to last many hundreds of years. Of course IF everyone THINKS we are running out of oil it is a LOT easier to keep prices high.

Of course a working Bessler type wheel would really help free people from bondage to big oil companies.

[ovyyus]

Some would say that 'Oil' is like a rope with which man hangs himself and his fellow men. I for one, can hardly imagine it's vast reservoirs existing at all without the agency of intelligent design.

Is lack of imagination reason enough to invoke superstition? Some would say it is.

[AlanR]

Hey Jim_mich,

can I ask for the source of your information re oil existing anywhere and lasting hundreds of years?

all research i have privately conducted is contrary to your statements.

Actually OPEC claims we are not running out of oil, if they did it would lead to mass panic and then real (immediate) supply problems.

as an example of panic recall the so-called "oil crisis" of 1971, when the taps were throttled back - gas queues and gun violence at US gas stations - and that was only for a short time.

regards
AlanR

[ovyyus]

...Of course an oil well at that depth IS more expensive to drill and pump. But there is enough oil to last many hundreds of years. Of course IF everyone THINKS we are running out of oil it is a LOT easier to keep prices high...

Sometimes the simple truth can be so... well... simple :)

[AlanR]

oh, forgot to mention

i love that middle east saying that goes something like

"My grandfather rode a camel... My father driove a car... I fly in an airplane... My son will ride a camel"

the Saudis know their oil kingdoms' time is limited.

thats why very little new infrastructure (refineries, etc) are being built to cater for growth... there wont be any. (oh, except for pipelines to Haifa, but thats another story, isn't it?)

AlanR

[Fletcher]

The Arabs also say ...

"To much sunshine makes a desert"

I always took that to mean that man is never happy with his lot & quickly bores of anything familiar (no matter how good it looks from the outside) aka "another beautiful day in f...'n paradise", or to much of a good thing and all that.

Perhaps it just means that their days in the economic sunshine may be coming to an end.

[jim_mich]

Hey Jim_mich,

can I ask for the source of your information re oil existing anywhere and lasting hundreds of years?

Sorry, It took me a while to find the article on my computer. (Bad filing system)

This is the article about oil not being a 'fossil fuel'. I didn't take the time to re-read it but I think it talks about how long oil will last?

The Origin of Methane (and Oil) in the Crust of the Earth

Thomas Gold

U.S.G.S. Professional Paper 1570, The Future of Energy Gases, 1993


http://people.cornell.edu/pages/tg21/usgs.html