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Well it seems that Epi, is back in the limelight over at "Evgray"
New Link to Ashtweth's Superior Intellect and Wisdom
Posted by: "w.nilly" w.nilly@yahoo.com w.nilly
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http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=5953

Here we have two lovely pages of Ashtweth at his finest. B sure to
read the second page, where Ashtweth threatens other members of the
forum that he will "take them to the forest and kill them" and proudly
boasts of his interest in "killing techniques". What a great guy we
have here! And such an intellectual, too!
Willy Nilly

Note the date on this forum thread, Then compare it to what he has to say on the previous page of this thread. And I remind Coylo of my comment "give a man enough rope and he will hang himself"...

By the way "Willy Nilly" is now under scrutiny and a poll is being taken to ban him from the Evgray forum.

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My father in law was mentioning something about this invention. so how has it panned out? is the invention a bust or does it really produce 5x or 10x more energy that what is used to start it? how does the machine work?
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Flywheels to build up kinetic energy. Not truly unknown but for real use it tends to take up a lot of room and there are sometimes problems with flywheels with industrial size wheels and are very expensive in that size. Just imagine flywheels 100 ft tall. How could you balance it.
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Peter.
peter1983 wrote:My father in law was mentioning something about this invention. so how has it panned out? is the invention a bust or does it really produce 5x or 10x more energy that what is used to start it? how does the machine work?
To my knowledge, with what test results I have received via web and private mail from those who are supposed to be on the inside. It does not work!

A certain amount of kinetic energy is stored in the multiple wheels, which does allow for a very short duration of more out than in, but the time lapse is very short before having to allow the device to gain back it initial momentum. No over-unity and no sef-sustaining rpm.

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AB Hammer wrote:Flywheels to build up kinetic energy. Not truly unknown but for real use it tends to take up a lot of room and there are sometimes problems with flywheels with industrial size wheels and are very expensive in that size. Just imagine flywheels 100 ft tall. How could you balance it.
The largest flywheel that my research has ran across was 45 feet in diameter and was used in conjunction with a steam engine to pump water from a gold and silver mine in Carson Nevada in the late 1800's. As I recall the lift was over 3,00 feet!

Not unlike the type used for pumping oil, it was not balanced but has a counter weight 180 degrees from the lift cycle. Can also be compared to the counter weights cast into a steam locomotive drive wheels. Even these advanced to over 8 feet tall for passenger trains before the advent of the diesel-electric.

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there were many many flywheels way over the 45 foot range at anaconda copper mines in butte montana . i believe several of them still exist at a salvage yard about 25 mile outside butte . the owner stood them up on their faces to display . i also believe several were sold to disneyworld along with other monstrous equipment and set up in france as part of disneyworld there . i think the wheels were originally on huge air compressors . IN pennsylvania in the late 1800s at that time was the largest steam engine in the world , nick named "the president" , it had a 40 foot flywheel , bore & stroke was 10 ft. x 10 ft. !! thats around 1 million cubic inches !!! it operated a water pump at a zinc mine , at the delivery rate of 15,000 gallons a minute . think it was eastern pa. around allentown . might still exist as a tourist attraction , not sure . had a long row of very large coal fired steam boilers to supply it . i heard the ground really trembled for a long ways around butte when the compressors were running and the sound was audible for a few miles . poor anaconda , nothing left except the smelter stack , biggest one in the world , 500 feet tall !!!!
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Just a quick note for anyone following the Campbell saga...

Ashtweth (Epi) has made himself scarce over on OU.com after ranting and raving a few weeks back that someone calling herself Linda was really "the banned Humbugger" and he then demanded that Linda be banned or he would not be back...so far he has not since posted.

On the Charles machine, it seems promotion has been taken over by Lawrence Tseung and his cohort "Forever" wherein Miss Forever has posted a second-hand report from Patrick Kelly (Ash's "professor pal" who publishes the "Panacea University" drivel).

So...according to Ms. Forever's report of Kelly's report...Charles has now managed to produce a self-running version of his electrical flywheel contraption (not the Bessler-like unit) which spins itself indefinitely and provides at least 75 Watts additional power output.

Ms. Forever was asked (by "Linda", coincidentally) to provide a link to Patrick Kelly's report...no answer.

Here is the post by Ms. Forever...

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topi ... l#msg57451


Amazingly, there seems to be no other report or news about this earth-shattering development anywhere to be found. Anyone heard about this great new Charles Campbell development?

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Humbugger,

Thank you for the update.

Your post pretty well covers what I am aware of. I had not heard of this so called AERO and a Google search showed no restults. Lot's of companies named AERO but none as described.

I have taken the liberty of making a copy-paste of their home page here:

AERO Award Program

November 1, 2007

Advanced Energy Research Organization, LLC (AERO) is offering an up-front $200,000 licensing award and minimum $5 million two year royalty program for a qualifying new energy breakthrough.

The Charlottesville, VA energy research company is leading a world-wide search for promising, out-of-the-box inventors and scientists who have provable energy generation inventions that need support, further development and widespread public exposure.

AERO CEO Steven M. Greer MD notes that, "Over the past 100 years, many major energy breakthroughs have withered on the vine, died with the inventor or been absorbed into secretive corporate or government programs. It is AERO's mission to see that these new technologies are protected, supported and massively disclosed to the public so that we can go beyond our current addiction to oil, gas and coal and begin a new, sustainable era in human history.

AERO is uniquely qualified to see that such technological innovations make it to market. Our network includes 'A-list' celebrities, Nobel Prize winners, current and former heads of State and millions of people who follow our work. The inventor or team that has a qualifying system for energy generation will have the full force, support and protection of this unique, global network."

The criteria for the Award are:

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The invention must be already built, robust and running reliably, with a net exportable (usable) power output of at least 1 kilowatt or greater.
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The system must use no power from the power grid and if batteries or capacitors are used, they must remain fully charged.
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The system must create no greenhouse gases or other polluting emissions and must be a closed loop system (that is, the output energy is sufficient to run the energy needs of the system and also provide the minimum 1 kilowatt of usable net power.)
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If it is a water-to-fuel system, the system must be able to electrolyze water into hydrogen and oxygen to create enough on-demand fuel to run the system (again, closed-loop) and create the minimum 1 kilowatt of net usable power.
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Solar, wind and geothermal are excluded from the system, as these systems already exist.
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The inventor must be willing to license the system to AERO, LLC.
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The system must be able to pass performance and efficiency testing by three independent scientific groups and be fully reproducible from plans by an independent third party (AERO will sign a non-disclosure agreement with the inventor(s) as needed to assure confidentiality.)
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The system must not use radioactive materials or other materials that are an environmental hazard or biohazard.
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The inventor must be willing to bring the system to Virginia to be tested and this testing must be transparent and open (no hidden "black box" tests).

The winning inventor or team will receive $200,000 up-front as a licensing award (see our sample licensing agreement) and will be guaranteed a minimum of $5 million in royalty payments within two years of the creation of a manufacture-ready, beta-tested system. If the current prototype needs further R and D to attain manufacture, UL listed readiness, AERO will provide the support to reach this state-of-the-art.

http://www.aero2012.com/en/award.html

There is another link at the bottom of this link with instructions for applying.

http://www.aero2012.com/en/evaluation1.mhtml

One kilowatt requirement, sound like a lot, for a first proto-type, but it is better than Eric's 1.5 Kilowatt minimum and so is the alleged promised return.

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I think I'll go for it ralph.
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Ralph

Do you think it is worth it? Only $200,000.00 up front and only after manufacture ready will the 2 years come into effect? It seem like a long time for that could make it 5 to 10 years later and then they may not even get it ready for manufacture due to a newer invention they like better. And what of any other inventions you have that will fall under your agreement with them?

There are things to consider, and more investigation, before jumping into this one.
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$200,000 and I'm sure they get to lock you in with them for quite a while.

If the device is invented, believe me $200,000 is a laughable amount. Investors will undoubtably be throwing money at you!
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Thanks for the post, Ralph.
rlortie wrote:....
AERO Award Program

November 1, 2007

Advanced Energy Research Organization, LLC (AERO) is offering an up-front $200,000 licensing award and minimum $5 million two year royalty program for a qualifying new energy breakthrough.
.....
AERO isn't a credible organization.
The Charlottesville, VA energy research company is leading a world-wide search for promising, out-of-the-box inventors and scientists who have provable energy generation inventions that need support, further development and widespread public exposure.
Any inventor or scientist with a with a working model wouldn't need AERO's help to get widespread exposure of any sort, be it widespread public exposure or widespread private exposure or widespread exposure to trees or turtles. If one had a working device they could get any sort of widespread exposure they wanted.

I can't be emphatic enough on this point but ANY PROVABLE energy generation system as they suggest would be both promising and waaaaaaaay out-of-the box.

The redundancies in just a snippet of the writings of this organization cause me to believe they are total idiots.

I have no impression of these folks on a personal level. I don't know if I could trust my wife with them or the family pet. I'm almost certain they are very good looking.

One other note...
Our network includes 'A-list' celebrities, Nobel Prize winners, current and former heads of State
... who's on this 'A-list' of celebrities? Why don't they list some folks so I could give them a ring? Also, what does it matter if they are celebrities?

I didn't want to mention it but I have extra-terrestrials from several galaxies helping me with my ideas. Since AERO pulled the 'celebrities' card I felt compelled to throw that in the mix. :)
Damn it Jim! I'm a politician not a scientist! :)
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Eric isn't a serious offer either.
I would love to lose my money and feel my net worth would go up in the long run from exploitable FE.
....Eric Krieg's site
I am only guessing but I think he would claim your device were a fraud and not pay a penny unless he understood exactly how it worked. How else would he expect to increase his net worth exploiting the FE? Maybe wait for the marketed device? Yeah.

I really think you would have to sue him. If you did you'd make him famous. :) What a lose/lose proposition.
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One kilowatt requirement, sound like a lot, for a first proto-type, but it is better than Eric's 1.5 Kilowatt minimum and so is the alleged promised return.
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Allen, DrWhat, OO7, and James,

I agree with your above responses (with the exception of James.

I posted this for general review, I am not in any means endorsing it. I attempted to read and understand there disclosure statement and am not any wiser than before.

I agree that when such a device is discovered that need only be self-sustaining, one will have not have a problem seeking capital venture resources. I do not feel that 1 or 1.5 KW be required other than to allow someone to ride on your shoulders.

A self sustainer that is not capable of producing any surplus output power would be of great scientific significance. one could make millions mass producing small ones for novelty devices. To my thinking it would be comparable to re-inventing the wheel, or as one member put it , "stepping on the moon"...

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