Ralph,
Not sure why you chose a hobby like this. All engineering that I have heard of works to standards. This limits the variables.
But do you know what I am tired of ? People that are not willing to take the time to learn orr understand soemthing.
When I worked at Boeing, poeple would say I showed up at work hung over. What it was, was severe ear infections partly due to my hearing loss.
Yet I was the one going to community college and taking off hour training.
Yet what were they doing ? Nothing really. And that is why they did not like me. I was taking the time and doing somehting with it.
I think the same applies in here.
To try to understand a concept based on cause and effect can save a lot of work.
For example, take Alans' concept that he is working on.
These are some suggestions I have thought of that might help him. If not, that is okay. He does know what he is working on and I have only heard a few descriptions.
Hope you don't mind, but I have a thought or two on your design.
I am not sure the specifics you are trying so please bare with me.
On your catch for your weight, I do believe it is possible that if it is spring loaded, that a leveraged arm can open it to reduce loss of momentum.
Then when the weight is in position, a diffferent catch can hold it in place.
Then when it is in position to be "shot", the catch can be released. And if the spring is beneath what the weight is on, it would push upward which should have no effect on the spin of your wheel.
rlortie wrote:MrTim,
I agree!!!!!
To debate the mathematics of a Bessler wheel is perpetual in itself. IMO it will never be done! To many variables, without knowing the mechanical configuration used to begin with, poltergeists will play there roll and weights will move in and out.
The weights seek equilibrium, but is it that the weights cannot find it or is it that the drum keeps moving it? Is the unit so balanced that all it takes is feather dancing or a poltergeist (wind or draft in an unglazed room) to set it in motion?
Was the first one-way wheel tied down to stop it from motion, or was it tied down to prevent motion from starting? Where and how is math relevant to such questions.
Do you see any mathematical reference in any eye witness's documents? Or were they conceived after the fact and even then on unknown speculations? Does Bessler record any mathematical notations? IIRC He said it was a gift from God! What is next, are we going to debate God on a mathematical level?
This is a good forum, but for what it is worth, to much time is being spent on debating math that cannot be proven or refuted.
Obviously we find ourselves in the same dilemma with the wheel itself. But what is the easier of the two? I say physical builds and trial and error, debating math on an unknown is futile and will never be simulated.
Ralph