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I come here at least once a day and I am constantly thinking up new ideas...

Are we the only ones looking...?

I dont know about you, but sometimes it feels like the world is shooting headlong into lunacy... I dont think alot of people can even begin to look at it without politics getting in the way...

I know alot of people dont even ever consider p.m. because they have been taught not too, I just cant see batery powered cars ever reaching to far into the dreams which started them and fuel cells seem paradoxial... its still requires fuel(at a cost) and the most effecient/utilized ways of getting it require still other fuels...(to my knowledge)

Honestly can any of you see these tech. solving the pollution/energy problem in any significant way in the next ten years...?

this has to be the last hope, we will only want more energy in the future...
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Honestly can any of you see these tech. solving the pollution/energy problem in any significant way in the next ten years...?
It won't even happen in the next fifty. The auto/petroleum interests have a huge investment in keeping it around (but will make 'feel good' motions to make it look like they are changing.)
No, PM will not be the 'technology of the future'.
If you want that, you will have to follow in the footsteps of Tesla....
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And I will bring to ruin.....those ruining the earth.
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If you want that, you will have to follow in the footsteps of Tesla....
He didn't make nearly the mark on the world that he could/should have. He didn't have enough practicality, wasn't well grounded, you don't want to follow his footsteps exactly.
I don't really think there is a big pollution problem regarding fossil fuels. Things like fertilizer are bigger problems, along with lack of profitability in agriculture and lack of energy. Frankly though those aren't the real problems, they are problems posed by symptoms. The symptoms are those of the almost one and only problem: too many people.
I believe fuel cells are a waste of time, because the #1 plan on where to get the hydrogen is to chemically extract it from fossil fuels. This does have the advantage that all the waste products will still be at the plant that is making hydrogen, and not in the air, but the energy to extract it has to come from somewhere, making fuel cells largely an inefficient middleman. Also if all the cars ran on oxygen and hydrogen then the humidity would go up and the oxygen concentration would go down, though neither by much I bet.
There are increasingly incouraging attempts to genetically alter bacteria to make hydrogen or electricity from sunlight, and I really like this idea (as long as the bacteria isn't able to survive well outside it's battery, that way they don't mess up the environment or something). I recently heard about how they spliced spinach and bacteria to make the bacteria photosynthetic, and to create electricity (I'm not quite sure how the latter was achieved).
And as a final note I have to add that coming here everyday and having ideas does the world no good if you don't share them. Wouldn't you be upset if I had a idea that I wouldn't test or share, and it turns out to be the one, and then I up and croak?
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Jonathan wrote:And as a final note I have to add that coming here everyday and having ideas does the world no good if you don't share them. Wouldn't you be upset if I had a idea that I wouldn't test or share, and it turns out to be the one, and then I up and croak?
This is why as soon as step [A] of 'The Plan' is achieved step should be implemented.

A] First get something that works!!!

B] Take steps to insure the idea survives in case of calamity.

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i watch the world oil situation with great interest, and unfortunately have nothing positive to say.
Some notes off the top of my head

- Shell downgraded their reserve estimates four times over the last year ot two. Others nervously revising estimates.

- "Bottle brush" drilling is being used more often, with water injection, which leads to an extension of deposit life but with a very sharp drop off.
- Ghawar, Saudi Arabias largest and oldest oilfield is 80% depleted.
- OPEC claims production can be increased (to prevent panic), yet based on their own formula of maintaning prices between US$22-$28 per barrel, with automatic production increase of 0.5mil bpd if price exceeds $28 for 20 days consecutively - its total crap - thay cant.

- Oil derived from tar sands, shale, etc is much more difficult & expensive to produce.
- for every 10 barrels produced, only 4 more are "found"

- Hubberts peak is spot on. We are at or very near "peak oil" right now.
- Chinas demand for oil has increased faster than anyone else.

Our whole friggin industrialized society must have oil. Watch prices for everything increase out of sight as oil prices increases. (which they will)
- Over 500,000 products, including many drugs & pharmaceuticals are based on oil!

hope i wasn't too optimistic ;-)

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Jonathan wrote:The symptoms are those of the almost one and only problem: too many people.
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Of course. I don't hate them, the problem could be restated as 'there's not enough resources'.
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AlanR wrote: we need 'the wheel' NOW
We will have it very soon. I believe this without doubt.
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Jonathan wrote:And as a final note I have to add that coming here everyday and having ideas does the world no good if you don't share them. Wouldn't you be upset if I had a idea that I wouldn't test or share, and it turns out to be the one, and then I up and croak?
Jonathan, I shared ideas before... just not here, and I learned leasons about people, greed & human nature.

My designs have been silently "slow cooking" for years and I have yet to open the pressure cooker of my one good OCD.

(Obsessive Compulsive Disorser)

P.S. - As for the croak comment, I have that covered.
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Jonathan, I shared ideas before... just not here, and I learned leasons about people, greed & human nature.
So you won't be sharing, and you won't be model making. What is the point in coming here then?

I recently shared one of the best ideas I've ever had, and a basic model is 70% completed. I wanted it to be a positive boost in a period of decline in idea sharing.

If you ever did share an idea with great potential and when built, it worked, I'd give credit were credit is due, and I'm sure others on this forum would as well.

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coylo wrote:So you won't be sharing, and you won't be model making. What is the point in coming here then?
... Only place where people really converse about such things, I didn't say I wouldn't be sharing...
coylo wrote:If you ever did share an idea with great potential and when built, it worked, I'd give credit were credit is due, and I'm sure others on this forum would as well.
... Me too...
coylo wrote:We got your back.
... I dont know if a few posters here "knew" would make much difference... if a situation like that happened.

I can't imagine a guy/girl sharing a idea and not being lost/forgotten in the flurry of "who's idea it really is"...

How could you prove you had anything to do with it... other than the initial posting, and nobodies gonna get any $$$ or credit thats worth anything, beyond a pat on the shoulder.

Just imagine if that "irish guy" posted his magic energy box idea in a forum? Everybody and there brother would say they had built one too... (if it had worked)
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Oxygon,

You mention one good idea. Have you begun to build it? Or are you the one who said you have problems building things? I can't remember.

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Michael wrote:Oxygon, You mention one good idea....
... Which idea...?
Michael wrote:Have you begun to build it? Or are you the one who said you have problems building things? I can't remember.
I design... I am not a builder... Well, actually I am a perfectionist my end results never match my aspirations... I am all thumbs and I am easily discouraged by the process.

Most of all of my designs are so brilliantly simple and easy to build... Problem is that I am so insanely detial oriented.

This is the main problem I am facing...
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I'm a bit of a perfectionist myself.

"A builder is as only as good as his tools." (did I hear that from someone or did I make that up.)

I reckon I could build anything (there's that ego again), had I the resources, the tools and the machinery. I already possess the know how. I have access to a workshop but its limited.

Maybe, your in the same situation as me, Oxygon. But I get on with it, I pull my weight and get things done.
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