Are you optimistic ?

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Walt,

You wrote:
Are you saying you wouldn't use an idea unless you knew whose idea it was?
Not exactly, I will not share any idea of someones that I had received by private mail without authorization . I will not use an idea outside of the submitters scope without permission if received in private confidence.

If originator uses either a surname or alias and the material is on the net, then yes I will and have made use of it. Anything publicly posted whether the author is known or not is fair game in my books. (except copy right material) Its the private stuff that has its limitations.

Their is a lot of fishing and lurkers on forums such as this, many have more than one profile. If I am going to have private communication with someone is to much to know who I am communicating with?

Bessler007 is taking this way out of context. I could care less who or what a person on this forum wants to call themselves. I have said all I am going to say to or about him.

Do not expect much of a reply if you should use an alias when you write me privately or call on the phone. It is for the protection of those that trust me to keep things confidential. Today I received six phone calls from four different members. It is nice to know who I am talking to.

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I often wonder how the members of this forum will be perceived when the wheel is discovered. Will members be seen as heros, whose persistent belief in the wheel led to its fruition?

How swamped with hits and comments will this site be, and how we will be buried in all the posts. Controversy about who planted the seed that then grew into the final wheel.

What will be left for us members to do? Will we feel disheartened that most of us missed our chance at the discovery...

It will be very interesting indeed!
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Bessler007,
I see you have decided to use the forum again even though you can't anonymize your IP.
Bessler007 wrote:I haven't tried to access any file on your hard drive that you didn't provide a link for.
Where did I provide you with a link to modcp?
Bessler007 wrote:I recently read there might be some bugs with the moderator control panel between revisons.
And this is why you were trying to access it?
Bessler007 wrote:Even if I could access it I wouldn't.
Your actions clearly show this statement to be false.

I must confess after what has happened I do not feel very comfortable having you around. Can you change my mind? Why should I trust you?

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What's to trust? I don't understand the question. End users are more vunerable than administrators. You make that point when you suggested you had to put up a firewall to keep me out of the modcp files. I can't know what you're doing on the system or anyone else for that matter but you can keep tabs on everyone, eg what they're searching, etc.

What threw me off when you asked about the modcp was the suggestion 'I tried to access' and 'you had to put up a firewall'. I didn't try to access it, I did. The same way Ralph did when he looked up my ip. That report feature is beside every post. It is only as good as the integreity of the data base though.

For instance I had noticed rounder and fletcher posted from the same ip but now that doesn't seem to be present in the report. Not that it matters. I did find an interesting collection of collaborators below. They must live close together. There's another one in that group but I forget who it is right now.



IP address for this post
64.12.116.9 15 Posts
Users posting from this IP address
bluesgtr44 55 Posts
MrTim 15 Posts
winkle 5 Posts
Damn it Jim! I'm a politician not a scientist! :)
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WOW !!!!!!!! Steve , Tim , & Winkle are 1 & the SAME ???? sounds like a good way to answer your own questions !!!! whhhheeeeeuuuuu !!! makes my head hurt !!!!
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...by the way... (clear throat) ...I'm optimistic. I don't see how anyone could be on this board and not be de facto optimistic.
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OK Bessler007 I didn't realize that the modcp page was also the IP lookup page. I saw a bunch of "invalid session" errors where you were trying to access the moderator control panel. I thought since you aren't a moderator you might be up to some mischief. My apologies.

Still, your answer about investigating a bug made me think you were looking for a possible exploit.

As for the fact that many people post from the same IP address, it is usually because they are on AOL or some other large ISP that maintains a pool of IP addresses and hands them out to their users each time they log in, so sometimes two or more people can get the same one.

Hopefully now we can move on.

-Scott

P.S. And yes, I'm optimistic!
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007 .. Rounder is Canadian & I'm in New Zealand [opposite ends of the earth] ;)
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Holy, tunneling proxies, Fletcherman, there are gateways all over the earth.

Well, at least it's an answer. It is, however, as intellectually unsatisfying as your contention the meaning of perpetual motion has evolved since Bessler's day. Thanks for the geography lesson. You might know 'mericans aren't too good when it comes to George Eston's old granny.

On a believability scale of one to ten it does rank above the statistical probability an isp would assign the same address to different users at such a high frequency as I cited. I've been told people have been banned for breaching a much lower threshold. I'd run the numbers but I do have some wheel ideas to work on.
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If there are any statiticians with no wheel ideas to work on who might want to look at the numbers here is the other data:

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 152.163.100.130 86 Posts
Users posting from this IP address
 bluesgtr44 86 Posts
 Joel Wright 23 Posts
 MrTim 17 Posts

fascinating function that ip look-up.
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Code: Select all

>nslookup 152.163.100.130
Name:    cache-rtc-ac01.proxy.aol.com
Address:  152.163.100.130
Like I said they are AOL users. Nothing surprising there.
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007 placed my name in that and i'm not a AOL user

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hold on
i'm on CompuServe and AOL owns CompuServe
don't know how that would affect things
the uneducated

if your gona be dumb you gota be tough

Who need drugs when you can have fatigue toxins and caffeine
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Don't know where Mr. Tim is....Wink and I are both in Texas...I believe Gene was from Texas also.


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I'm in FL, with AOheL dial-up.

Hey Bessie,
"We know who you are!"

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I'm in FL, with AOheL dial-up.

Hey Bessie,
"We know who you are!"
Are you sure about that Mr. Tim.....and who is Mr. Anderson!


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