I was thinking about what jonathon said in the "letting go..." thread...
"I also think itÂ’s a good thing to be completely clear about one further point. Many would-be Mobile-makers think that if they can arrange for some of the weights to be a little more distant from the center than the others, then the thing will surely revolve. A few years ago I learned all about this the hard way.
In this idea the "doors" would "slam/slap" together one the one side and maybe they could come apart slower on the other as not to take away as much from the wheel as is added to it on the other side?
Couldn't this be a way to add energy to a wheels rotation without it being an OBW?...
Something like this? I know that alot of "inertial thruster" ideas use this redirection of force...
...?
Note: this is not an OBW...
As for the picture... I hope its not confusing...
... just an idea...
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"A man with a new idea is a crank until he succeeds."~ M. Twain.
Oxygon, you just made me think. I'm aware of only a few ideas/patents (out of many) that have actually been proven to produce inertial thrust. But if they can turn energy into thrust then why can't it be reverse enginered to turn gravitational thrust into energy?
Now where was the links to those idea? Some I remember...
Norman Dean's "Dean System Drive"
David Cowlishaw's "Gyroscopic Inertial Thruster"
Roy Thornson's "Inertial Drive Engine".
Bob Cook "Cook Inertial Propulsion" http://www.forceborne.com/FBW/principle.htm
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I am currently researching Laithwaites' papers on the conversion of instantaneous rotational momentum to linear thrust.
very interesting stuff.
See www.gyroscopes.org under the "propulsion" tab. Seems there is current activity there and some fascinating (to me) ideas, and some proof of operation.
Reduction of centrifugal force by forced precession of a spinning mass seems to allow mass transfer without reaction!
I agree with jim_mich that conversions of this nature may indeed play a role in the soultion.
Perhaps assymetry of this nature, breaking the loop, can be adapted in a Bessler wheel.
Inertial thrust demonstrations where the device would move across a table, which were pretty convincing (going uphill slightly) were discredited.
The static friction was overcome by the short duration high peak value of centrifugal force generated in one direction (causing movement), but not in the other direction (the reaction, which had a longer duration but lower peak value) which did not over come static friction. Overall the values zeroed out. But it was a neat trick, and fooled a lot of people (not intentionally, i dont think).
Having said that i should say that i do think there are possibilities in this area, but with gyroscopic motion (see other post).
AlanR is right, there is a centrifugal force asymmetry in Cowlishaw's device, but there is also necessarily a period of exertion asymmetry too, that is equal and opposite, such that the net impulse is zero. But Cook's device, if it does work, doesn't have this problem, because the force is one-sided, and so how much it is or how long it lasts doesn't matter.
Disclaimer: I reserve the right not to know what I'm talking about and not to mention this possibility in my posts. This disclaimer also applies to sentences I claim are quotes from anybody, including me.
Inertial thrust demonstrations where the device would move across a table, which were pretty convincing (going uphill slightly) were discredited.
The static friction was overcome by the short duration high peak value of centrifugal force generated in one direction (causing movement), but not in the other direction (the reaction, which had a longer duration but lower peak value) which did not over come static friction. Overall the values zeroed out. But it was a neat trick, and fooled a lot of people (not intentionally, i dont think).
Having said that i should say that i do think there are possibilities in this area, but with gyroscopic motion (see other post).
