This has been perpetually going round inside my head for the last few months, I cant seem to get it together to build one though.
So hopefully you can all slag it off and I can get some sleep. :)
The general idea is fairly obvious but I will just add that the balls are inside pivoted tubes in which they can roll up and down and impact the ball in the next tube when at the bottom but not roll out, thus passing along the momentum to the next ball keeping the bottom ball always moving right. The driving force is the IMPACT of the falling ball at between 2 & 3 o'clock on the wheel, hopefully moving the wheel around enough to the point where the next one impacts ad imperpetum
and maybe a bit of over ballancing thrown in?
Hi Trev;
Interesting concept, it appears that a lot of basic designs that are posted here do not get past the basic concept of a closed/balanced system. You can have all sorts of activity happening at the perimeter of your wheel with a net effect of zero torgue/impetus. (Ask techstuff about your design.)
For a breakthrought/innovative concept you need:
1) a simultaneous energy transfer to the opposite side of the wheel during rotation (via inputs/shifts/springs whatever)
2) an innovative centre of gravity shift focussed at the fulcrum(s) or axis(centre) of the wheel.
Funny thing, environ energy is actually trying to implement a concept that follows precept 1) above; but let's make one thing clear; their concept is pathetically inefficient. Anyone that cannot see that intuitively has obviously never spent hours in actual hands on experimentation.
Does anyone out there have any REAL innovative ideas?? Please stand up and contribute!!! You will not be ridiculed.....
--Patrick
If you curve the tubes outward a bit, would it work better? the bottom ball would stay on average more in the center instead of suddenly rolling across. (and being on the wrong side untill it does) The top ball would stay up longer (more of a hill) and fall faster(more of a snap action) What do you think?
Hi Patric. is the spring and tube system and the bottom ball always moving to the right on this design not a simultaneous energy transfer to the opposite side of the wheel during rotation (via inputs/shifts/springs whatever) ?
Gramaster2000,
I did think of that but what you gian on the swings you loose on the roundabouts, (if you know what I mean)
I built a simple model with two arms, using rubber bands for springs and (magnet) weights that slide up or down the arms (arms go through middle of weights, instead of vice versa), and it didn't work.
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Thanks Jim & Jonathan for taking the time to test that out.
I think the main reason Besslers wheel has remained unsolved for so long is the sheer amount of time, money and energy it takes to test out each design effectively. Also the answer must be one that we wouldnÂ’t expect and would likely say 'oh that wouldnÂ’t work because...' otherwise someone would have come up with it by now.
I do wonder about the simulation software, It's a great idea, and could be the answer to the testing problem but how effective is it at mimicking real life machinery and all its quirks?
Jim, you could try making the tubes hang down lower or making them curved as Grav suggested?
'oh that wouldnÂ’t work because...' otherwise someone would have come up with it by now.
I hear that alot when i talk about anything new, the problem with that statment when talking about gravity (or even magnetic force) is we dont know what it is yet.
so actualy no one has come up with it by now. (except for maybe Bessler :-)
and im sure when we do know it will be very simple in nature,
cause and effect, force, energy and matter cannot be destroyed. heat and friction are energy not losses, conservation of energy only works in a closed system.
sorry i think i went off topic :P
......or if you are interested about "falling inside ( Bessler's) wheel ", take a look at : www.evert.de/eft778e.htm
I agree with "kinetic energy is build up by free falling" , but not with "stop of fall-motion...and (the manner of..but not an impact/the striking of one body against another ) transfer into turning moment...",and again with "...by useful lever arm mechanism".
Al_ex
Whats wrong with impact ? Ok mister clever engineer, show me your idea way of pulsing instead of this incomprehensible babbletalk.
What is your preferred method of pulse ?
There is a few methods...
Magnets, shielded wheel so to hit tangantially
Impact...kinectic
Wheel pushing (friction plate + wheel)
And another method I have described...
Basicly a motor or flywheel system can lock itself to a system by turning a eccentric reflector that has a bearing @ the tip, thus tensionning the pulley without breaking it.
Hi !
For people interested to use the impact (hard/soft) method , there are a lot of proposals on net...between them , take a look at : www.free-energy-info.com/Chapt4.html
Al_ex
That seems to be a rather comprehensive website when it comes to the "alternative energy" stuff. Looks like it could keep someone busy for a while. It's at least interesting to see what's out there. Thanks for the link.
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Dwayne
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Hi Trev,it will not work it could not work the problem is the weights reach a point of rest bessler said nothing ever reaches a point of rest in fact you must prevent it ,this clue is really the most important clue in my mind,the problem with weights that reach a point of rest is they develope negative torque weight a heavyness if you like when you rotate it ,that makes the chance of creating and releasing the developed energy impossible to get out ,as bessler said nothing ever reachs a point of rest,good luck and thanks for sharing i wish you all the best Andy b
