Inertia against gravity...

[iacob alex]

...or more explicit,the rotational inertia of a heavy hub/rim opposed to the gravity fall of a small mass(torque difference,in fact),between the same gravitational levels,can be a way to store more and more gravity power(the process appears to be a longer exposure of an unstable arrangement to a continuous and accelerating phenomenon),so to release(restore,discharge),then,enough power regarding the friction,the "remake" of the starting unbalanced shape and sure,our own demand for "free" power.

It can be seen as a new leverage deal with:one arm in gravity,no arm in rotational inertia...

The proposal is to make use of the spinning inertia,as a temporary,transient storage for a longer time gravity fall,retarded gravity drop of an unbalanced system.

If you like,it can be the image of a pulsatory flywheel,as we can see all over around us,thinking in the terms of the natural mechanics.

It's an usual,up-down game,balance of gravity with inertia,nothing more...one wave of gravity shifted into rotational inertia and then back.

The main point is the possibility to wrap up in a self manner the gravity power.

The action is to drag,pull,take in tow the gravity...with the help of inertia.


All the Bests! / Alex

[pequaide]

When placing an extra mass on a balanced wheel you exert a force F upon the wheel that works for a much longer time (change in t) upon the total mass of the wheel. F = ma (a = change in v / change in t) or F t = mv. The velocity (delta v) of the wheel results in a very large quantity of momentum. When the momentum is transferred to the unbalanced mass the energy is increased tremendously.

So I think your statement is correct.

[iacob alex]

...or a newtonian relationship:action=reaction.

As the case may be...longer action=greater reaction?!

Action is gravity fall.

Reaction is rotational inertia.

Gravity fall of a system(a pair of unbalanced masses) is retarded,temporized(as a "parachute") due to the connection with a balanced massive mass,settled to "coil" this drop in the gravitational field.

The balanced massive mass is that "fixed point" of the classical mechanical clocks(insignifiant mass...),but now storing rotational energy...if you like,a new type of pendular movement(slow-paced,tortoise-like).A different ,unusual(but useful!) pendulum...that's all.

A small but time extended unbalance(action), becomes a source of a great push to inertia(reaction).

We are slowing up,delaying the fall as in a common fluidic flow,when we intend to get some power.

The purpose is to store enough energy,so to release then it,and build a self process.

So,play this new pendulum(bob-arm-heavy "fixed point")...and maybe,the imagination will help your knowledge.


All the Bests! / Alex

[pequaide]

You are correct: A one kilogram mass free falling (or a pendulum) one meter gives you 4.429 units of momentum and 9.81 joules of energy, d =1/2v²/a and Ke = 1/2mv².

A one kilogram mass accelerating a vertically mounted ring (for one meter) with a mass of nine kilogram has 14.007 units of momentum, and if all the motion (when the one kilogram reaches the bottom) is given to the one kilogram it will have 98.1 joules of energy and can rise 10 meters.

The cylinder and spheres experiment has proven that you can give all the motion to the one kilogram, so it is all about building bigger and bigger machines.

[broli]

Pequaide you're wrong. It has been proven to YOU only. We however are supposed to use our imagination. Why can't you find some time to write it down in normal human language with some illustrations. It's kind of funny, since if done this indeed would lead to many FE claims. Yet you keep repeating "it has been done look at the cylinder and spheres experiment". All I see is some pucks and a string, what am I supposed to get from that?

Or you're extremely lazy or you're just a peculiar guy.

[pequaide]

yahoo.com groups free_energy, files, cylinder and spheres, listings by pequaide, files names 8-19-08 002 is a good one.

It only takes a few minutes to find these pictures. I especially like the ten pictures that are ten frames from a video. You are welcome to transfer them to this site if you like. I would like to spend my time building bigger machines. I am working on a two wheel model both wheels with bearings, very interesting.

[iacob alex]

....as an useful play,can be easy understood with the help of a lab-demo at www.msu.edu/user/brechtjo/physics/atwood/atwood.html

Somebody,simply had an elementary questioning: "but what about an Atwood machine with a heavy mass pulley?"

I pointed about this investigativeness,some time ago on this forum.

As I see,Pequaide was interested about this problem...

Good news,because the curiosity can be the first step to overcome our limits of knowledge.

As somebody, a time ago noted(Karl Popper-1960) : "Our knowledge can only be finite,while our ignorance must necessarily be infinite".

So,this lab-demo,can be for some people as a "mind sparkle" for a second step...?!

All the Bests! / Alex

[Jiggawatts]

Inertia, gravity.... potential, kinetic. I've figured it all out with some actual mathematic calculation. It all makes sense now. The smallest thing in life can now even turn into greatest joy. It is not even about science or no science, law or no law. There's only 1 true law of nature and that law is "there is no law of nature". No wonder it drives Godel to self realization and killed all truth obssesers. I shall not disturb nature but rather encourage it to continue with good and evil, for that's... what life is all about. Let us open a new chapter and not write the end to the book.

Eistein equation E=mc^2 does not implies there is some relativity involve or it has to operate at the speed of light. It simply is the maximum potential a moving object posses is mv^2. The potential energy MGH will turn into mv^2 at its full speed. If you are clever, you only need 1/2mv^2 to get back to MGH and the other half is free. If you're not clever, you can turn MGH into 1/2MGH, thus destroy half the energy. The conversion process involve circular motion and the method involve direction of tangent and radial.

There will involve 2 besslerwheels back to back. Each pair of weight will give a pulse to the other pair of weights whose aligned with gravity. A pulse of energy shall be gained.

[LustInBlack]

It's astonishing that people can make such statements when BesslerWheel mechanism / process is absolutely unknown right now.

Who said you have weights inside!?

[path_finder]

Bessler opened his wheel and removed eight weights each time he left (widness testimony)

[ovyyus]

path_finder, please provide the source for your statement about 'witness testimony'.

[Jiggawatts]

I've reached the answer. My intuition can tell all and any overunity device if it has the right concept or not. I don't expect anyone to believe what I say but I must put it out for the information. I've worked it all out using two different approach and the answer came out to be the same. The verification is there. It is just the matter if people willing to listen. The mathematic is not rigorous and I promise you overunity now exist and one can understand ALL overunity devices. I am not into being rich or neither I want to be recognize for anything. There are many people suffering in this world and I don't believe it is their fault. I do not expect a perfect world but I do expect a balance, upgrade world. With overunity, we will be open to many new exciting journies. You can see me as a messenger and nothing more than that.

In circular motion, the amount of work input into centrifugal direction will amplify by a factor of two in the tangent direction. That's 1 work in for 2 work out.

[path_finder]

Dear Ovyyus,
Here is one of the numerous references:
http://www.besslerwheel.com/wiki/index. ... rtal:Clues
What is important is the fact that Bessler never showed the weights to anybody (I red somewhere he just accepted to leave people pulping the weights under a cover)
He only told 'they were cylindrical'
This is the reason I was convinced from my first studies that the secret of Bessler was INSIDE the weights (content, structure, materials,geometry,etc.)

[Stewart]

Hi path_finder

I think ovyyus is specifically interested in your statement: "Bessler opened his wheel and removed eight weights each time he left", and attributing the statement to a witness testimony. There's nothing in the wiki about it and I also have never heard any mention of a specific number of weights being removed from the wheel. If you can provide a source for this statement then please post it.

Stewart

[bluesgtr44]

Dear Ovyyus,
Here is one of the numerous references:
http://www.besslerwheel.com/wiki/index. ... rtal:Clues
What is important is the fact that Bessler never showed the weights to anybody (I red somewhere he just accepted to leave people pulping the weights under a cover)
He only told 'they were cylindrical'
This is the reason I was convinced from my first studies that the secret of Bessler was INSIDE the weights (content, structure, materials,geometry,etc.)

There isn't anything there consistent to what you had posted. I think you are mixing some events that happened at differing times.

On another note, your thoughts on the secret being inside the weights....My wife purchased this huge ball filled with air and sand. This is used for exercising and the sand helps hold it still while doing these. My nephews were over the other night and they were just playing with it, pushing down on it and then spinning it towards each other. It would start out slow, almost stop in mid air and then lurch forward at, what I thought, was an amazing increase in velocity. They were literally shooting this ball back and forth to each other in this way. I've had to work since then, but I do plan to take a better look at this action.


Steve