Lets make this work!

[beapilot]

Hi everyone!
I am alive back to sharing ideas. I am currently in progress in my physics class so I do not have all the answers yet. Since I drew the concept, you need to download it from:

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=5774 ... f6e8ebb871

It is in publisher file.

EDIT: In same link, has now a word file to download from.

If you do not have it, let me know so I can try to figure out another way to get you all to see! (Image it gets bury)

I can not wait to start a community help!

Also, I got so into using pulley systems and found a way to get one side weigh little moving the same distance as the other side lifting more but got stuck at knowing it does not work because I need to get the big side to go back down while it is empty which just sits there. The only way is adding weight which is not fun because now there is no excess weight.

Also, along the way, have you ever thought of using some concept like toilet paper? You know how you have a loose roll and the long length just act like weight and just keeps going down as it spins so fast? The other end can be rolled back on its own but needs to be at a lower position than the one unrolling above.

I have other ideas so, lets just work on the one that is in publisher!

Looking forward for useful community help rather than flame and slinging.

I do not remember if I saw this before but, I am VERY sure it is out there. That is why I just why I made the title "Lets make this work"

Joshua

EDIT:
If I find that there is not a significant amount of feedback/help, I will take the files down and save them for later community discussion.

[AB Hammer]

Joshua

I can't open the file. I have adobe and word
I am a Blacksmith by trade and am at best average on a computer.

PS I am glad your not a hacker. LOL

[beapilot]

Hi,
Thanks for being the first curious helper to post. In the same link above, there is now a word document you can download from.
Thanks,
Joshua

[AB Hammer]

Joshua

I recommend you study hydraulics ( water lift ) I have one on Over Unity that has some similar approaches but was never meant to spin, but rock and pump water.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6660.30

Post 31 but you may want to read over the whole string.

PS. keep on track and don't rock the boat especially advertisement, I see you have a red dot again.

[beapilot]

AB,

Thanks for the image. I studied your design and there is quite a difference. Eventually, the entire machine will stop because the main weight (center) will be horizontal with the lever as weights on both sides will equal causing the entire machine to cease.

What is the problem that will not make this design not work?

Joshua

[AB Hammer]

Joshua

Thanks for the image. I studied your design and there is quite a difference. Eventually, the entire machine will stop because the main weight (center) will be horizontal with the lever as weights on both sides will equal causing the entire machine to cease.

LOL The only difference in its basic is, mine is pumping water in and out and yours is pumping back and forth. But all and all the same concept. You have to go past the flowers and go strait for the roots to truly understand. If you look earlier in that string you will see another design of mine that goes back and forth. All these designs are virtually 0% chance of working when you understand you will see this. My rocker may have a 2% at best so it is not even worth building. IMO

Most all of us make the same mistakes until we learn the true boundaries. Then our designs improve, past the same old limitations and then and only then will you have a true chance of getting a running wheel. Otherwise it is just trivial.

[beapilot]

Did you reach the roots? Then stop laughing and start helping please and explain.

[AB Hammer]

Add your weights up in inch by inch settings then see if you have a moving device. I do most test by building and hands on, and I predict that I will have a runner before the year is out. IMHO

I don't keep this information on my computer for I have been hacked before, and if you find something good I suggest you do the same. I normally am to busy to pinpoint every inch of a device that has been tried and tried again. But we all need to learn to see and visualize what can and most likely go wrong in a design. One other thing is for a running wheel, do you have the time to make these shifts. The answer is no! In a device that runs 60 rpm there is only 1 second per turn and less than 1/2 second to make the shift. Squeeze water through a tube and count how long it takes to squeeze out. This should be enough.

[beapilot]

AB,

Thanks for supporting. You are right, the machine is slow but very strong indeed. A strong machine is better than a fast fragile one. Adding train gears can be an answer to speed.

Josh

[AB Hammer]

Joshua

You will like this.

The math on my rocker said it will complete a shift in 3 minutes. LOL that is 20 shifts an hour and I think it might make a cool garden ornament one day. LOL

[beapilot]

Wow, three minutes? That is a long time. Lets try to improve this concept to make it work better.