The key features of your secrete wheel designs

[AB Hammer]

A description to "Joe Public", would think we are all doing the same thing. This in my opinion is the biggest danger with "Joe Public". Just a little more to think about.

[Music_man]

Too new to forum to have read everyones thoughts. Jim had some good sarcasm I have just added springs and strings to my idea. That makes it possible to lift a 16oz weight using a 4oz weight.

Rick

[wheelrite]

I am surely way off the bottom of any list of initials...

[nicbordeaux]

Kudo's Jim! your flavor of sarcasm is appreciated and to the point! We are all working on the same basic idea, if not then your on the wrong forum.

Ralph

We are all working on the same basic idea, which is a gravity motor. Some are (or suggest they are) including other things like compressed air, or heated air.

I am not working with wheels, my experiments have left me to believe that they are much less efficient than oscillators with big amplitude.

Who on this forum do I fear will come out with a working G engine device before me ?

Nobody.

[axel]

I gave my description of part of my device and a poll was started where more people voted that they didn't give a damn about me or my idea than anything else.
Also voted that the JC prime mover would work but my rep bar tanked.
Guess it all depends on who you know and who you blow.

JC wrote that he didn't want to tell about his non runner ideas when everybody talks about sharing ideas so other won't have to waste time.

Go Figure.

AXEL

[nicbordeaux]

What I was wondering is if anyone else has hinted toward an UNIQUE part of a private design. No need in saying what that part was.

Yes, a man named Bessler hinted at a dog related thing. It's called a slack rope which when it is taughtened by "device" moving away from it's fixation point will snap away or back another moving part set upon main device and acting thereon.

[justsomeone]

Good one Nic. I look forward to sharing your Nobel prize.

[james kelly]

You are going to have to really hurry to beat me. JL KELLY

[justsomeone]

Why is that Mr. Kelly?

[DrWhat]

That's what you think Mr Kelly!

[nicbordeaux]

You are going to have to really hurry to beat me. JL KELLY

James,

I have absoluteley no need to beat anybody, or intention of racing to beating anybody to, and were you to "beat me to it" which I construe to mean full public disclosure of a "PM" device of sorts, I'd be the first to congratulate you.

I would however be a bit upset if somebody was working along the same lines of "solar" and uses thereof which I'm working on and arrived at the "perfect" device before me.

Best of luck (well, "luck" sounds a bit off, but there is always a random element or "lucky I noticed that" part to any invention) :)

Nick

ps : @ justsomeone : what sort of incentive are you offering that I should share a Nobel prize with you ? :)

[nicbordeaux]

Too new to forum to have read everyones thoughts. Jim had some good sarcasm I have just added springs and strings to my idea. That makes it possible to lift a 16oz weight using a 4oz weight.

Rick

Nice one Rick, but are you sure it is "powah" from da machine, and not just a leverage effect with energy loss ? Which wouldn't be necessarily bad anyway. To clarify, if you are moving weights out and other weights in towards the center, it's leverage. Unless you notice a net gain in power over several cycles, which is quite possible.

[Music_man]

I am essentially without giving the whole design away, using the larger weights on both sides to balance each other and moving the smaller weights in on one side and out on the other to move the wheel. You are in fact rising the heavier weigh using the lighter one. I suppose it is using leverage like a seesaw. My models have had too much friction when the weights move to work. I am working on a different approach.

Rick

[nicbordeaux]

I am essentially without giving the whole design away, using the larger weights on both sides to balance each other and moving the smaller weights in on one side and out on the other to move the wheel. You are in fact rising the heavier weigh using the lighter one. I suppose it is using leverage like a seesaw. My models have had too much friction when the weights move to work. I am working on a different approach.

Rick

Rick, that setup is fine as long as you realize that your lack of "drive" isn't necessarily going to be overcome by "more and better" bearings or else. The inherent problem with the principle, and I have played with it a load in other forms, is that if you transpose whatever you are building into a beam with a 5 kg weight at each end (for purposes of "illustration) and your "rolling about weight" is 1 kg, the maximum you'll extract will be 1 kg and the motion will be slow due to inertial issues.

Still, if you can get your weights moving fast enough "across" your wheel with a small main mass "mover weight", good work for that would indeed cause imbalance in the wheel, and when the weights were driven the other "side" at the right moment you'd be through 360°. Good luck on timing that shift of COG.

Nick

[Wubbly]

Why is that Mr. Kelly?

@justsomeone
http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewt ... ght=#13611
scroll to bottom of page 2.
Must be that 46 year head start he got on you ...