Tesla is misunderstood
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Tesla is misunderstood
There is a film I have just finished watching yesterday called coffee and cigarettes. It's a black and white artsy piece with some famous musicians and actors in it, Iggy Pop, Tom Waits, Bill Murrey, etc. It's several stories in one. The actors sit in coffee shops and talk, or not, all the while smoking and dringing coffee or tea. If you can get past it's unpolishedness and look for the hidden meaning it has something very interesting to say. Basically it is saying that psychic or sychonistic events happen all the time and they happen most likely because of acoustical resonance. Tesla is mentioned in the film and one of his coils is showcased. At any rate it had me rethinking Tesla today, which is what I believe the real purpose of the film is.
The general idea around Tesla was he was going to power the earth by sending out a power wave using the earth as a conductor. Tesla however states in his release notes that he was going to send out a wave complex, and this is something quite different. Hold a styrofoam cup in your hand with some liquid in it and emit a sound range with your throat. You'll eventually hit a range of sound that causes the cup to vibrate. Pour out some of the liquid and try again and you'll have to hit a different sound range to make the cup vibrate. The vibration will also be different. This is what Tesla was going towards, I believe. A range of power would be sent and could only be picked up at certain regions on the earth. Regions with a given cavernous volume capable of resonating at a certain rate. This way power stations could be set up and power could still be charged to a customer. Other regions would have different volumes, therefore capable of different resonate rates, therefore different uses. It is probably true that he did intend for free broadcast information so those wave formations would be more wide spread of course.
Reg.
Mike
The general idea around Tesla was he was going to power the earth by sending out a power wave using the earth as a conductor. Tesla however states in his release notes that he was going to send out a wave complex, and this is something quite different. Hold a styrofoam cup in your hand with some liquid in it and emit a sound range with your throat. You'll eventually hit a range of sound that causes the cup to vibrate. Pour out some of the liquid and try again and you'll have to hit a different sound range to make the cup vibrate. The vibration will also be different. This is what Tesla was going towards, I believe. A range of power would be sent and could only be picked up at certain regions on the earth. Regions with a given cavernous volume capable of resonating at a certain rate. This way power stations could be set up and power could still be charged to a customer. Other regions would have different volumes, therefore capable of different resonate rates, therefore different uses. It is probably true that he did intend for free broadcast information so those wave formations would be more wide spread of course.
Reg.
Mike
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Hi Mick,
Nikola Tesla had a device to which he showed the effects (results) of vibration (oscillation)
The device in question was a small handheld unit he showed off to a gentleman before he placed it against the frame of an unfinished building (3-4 storey high steel frame structure)
According to the eyewitness the whole building (after a few minutes) was swaying so much so that workmen at the top thought an earthquake was taking place.
Tesla explained to the gentleman that it was all a case of the right frequency. .....(TRUE STORY)
"Hey" ...is'nt this over-unity ?
If one were to place copper + magnets at the top of the building in question, would'nt you receive more out than in ? (assuming you used Tesla's unit)
I had a model built and tested a while ago based on this "whip O/U" ...no firm results. It consisted of 2 x three metre long wooden rods standing verticaly in their own dock's. The way I wanted it to work was to try to have one swaying so as to feed into the second...won't go into detail...still unfinished.
Nikola Tesla had a device to which he showed the effects (results) of vibration (oscillation)
The device in question was a small handheld unit he showed off to a gentleman before he placed it against the frame of an unfinished building (3-4 storey high steel frame structure)
According to the eyewitness the whole building (after a few minutes) was swaying so much so that workmen at the top thought an earthquake was taking place.
Tesla explained to the gentleman that it was all a case of the right frequency. .....(TRUE STORY)
"Hey" ...is'nt this over-unity ?
If one were to place copper + magnets at the top of the building in question, would'nt you receive more out than in ? (assuming you used Tesla's unit)
I had a model built and tested a while ago based on this "whip O/U" ...no firm results. It consisted of 2 x three metre long wooden rods standing verticaly in their own dock's. The way I wanted it to work was to try to have one swaying so as to feed into the second...won't go into detail...still unfinished.
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I doubt that is true, and if it is, it is not OU, just resonance. If you had magnets and coils then the power you extract would dampen the oscillation.
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Hey Jonathan, (hey as in hi)
Actually it is true but it is also just a case of resonance. Apprarently one of the frequencies he was experimenting with was vibrating a sand bed the street was on and people thought they were in the middle of an earthquake. Tesla was going under the assumption (I believe) that electrical impules happen at the molecular level in the body. He was treating the earth basically as being similar. He alos felt that matter was a gas (aether) that took a solid shape because it was vibrating very rapidly. He had done some experiments where he vibrated some gas using his electrical oscilator and found it took a solid shape and was even effected by gravity just as a solid would. By experimenting with his mechanical osccilator he was documenting what osccilation frequency was needed to make different materials vibrate. He believed he was matching the molecular vibration rate of these materials. It was probably an easy was to document what rates he would need for his transmission towers.
Interesting that electrons also vibrate, meaning the virtual particles that surround them also vibrate. Or as the quote goes, "the electron vibrates, so the universe shakes."
Reg.
Mike
Actually it is true but it is also just a case of resonance. Apprarently one of the frequencies he was experimenting with was vibrating a sand bed the street was on and people thought they were in the middle of an earthquake. Tesla was going under the assumption (I believe) that electrical impules happen at the molecular level in the body. He was treating the earth basically as being similar. He alos felt that matter was a gas (aether) that took a solid shape because it was vibrating very rapidly. He had done some experiments where he vibrated some gas using his electrical oscilator and found it took a solid shape and was even effected by gravity just as a solid would. By experimenting with his mechanical osccilator he was documenting what osccilation frequency was needed to make different materials vibrate. He believed he was matching the molecular vibration rate of these materials. It was probably an easy was to document what rates he would need for his transmission towers.
Interesting that electrons also vibrate, meaning the virtual particles that surround them also vibrate. Or as the quote goes, "the electron vibrates, so the universe shakes."
Reg.
Mike
meChANical Man.
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"He had done some experiments where he vibrated some gas using his electrical oscilator and found it took a solid shape and was even effected by gravity just as a solid would."
That's interesting, I don't get why that would happen though. Where could I find the documentation of this?
That's interesting, I don't get why that would happen though. Where could I find the documentation of this?
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Too bad Tesla was way ahead of his generation's mind set. It was said of him that he could picture a complete device in his head and know or not that it would work before he began to build it!
He, and Nathan Stubblefield are two lost to the ages of almost obscurity,
There is hardly any textbooks that include Tesla in the history books in American schools. I think there is an organization trying to get those books updated to include his inventions and such.
Thank God the expression goes, that Bessler at least gave us his hints and such to know his "wheel"
He, and Nathan Stubblefield are two lost to the ages of almost obscurity,
There is hardly any textbooks that include Tesla in the history books in American schools. I think there is an organization trying to get those books updated to include his inventions and such.
Thank God the expression goes, that Bessler at least gave us his hints and such to know his "wheel"
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I don't understand what was Tesla getting at?
There was talk of him pumping millions apon millions of volts directly into the groung using his wireless power station so as to create a vibration for what? at any rate he still needed to use the cities main power grid to get his project to work!
Tesla's power station was designed to send (WITHOUT WIRES) free electricity to anyone who wanted to use it. Thats great! .......But I don't see how was his power plant suposed to operate.
Was it designed to take take free energy (ether or whatever) from the Earth and distribute it to anyone who wanted to use it directly through the air without the use of power lines?
If this was the case then why was he using the cities power supply to pump the Earth?
If all that his Power station was going to do was to keep the continueation of burning fossil fuels so as to send electricity without wires........ "Then I'm forced to think that that was a high price to pay and was'nt good enough"
There was talk of him pumping millions apon millions of volts directly into the groung using his wireless power station so as to create a vibration for what? at any rate he still needed to use the cities main power grid to get his project to work!
Tesla's power station was designed to send (WITHOUT WIRES) free electricity to anyone who wanted to use it. Thats great! .......But I don't see how was his power plant suposed to operate.
Was it designed to take take free energy (ether or whatever) from the Earth and distribute it to anyone who wanted to use it directly through the air without the use of power lines?
If this was the case then why was he using the cities power supply to pump the Earth?
If all that his Power station was going to do was to keep the continueation of burning fossil fuels so as to send electricity without wires........ "Then I'm forced to think that that was a high price to pay and was'nt good enough"
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Hi Jonathan,
I'll have to see if I can find the book where that is referenced and I'll give it to you. The book is not of other peoples ideas of Tesla's but of his own notes and experiments.
Reg.
Mike
I'll have to see if I can find the book where that is referenced and I'll give it to you. The book is not of other peoples ideas of Tesla's but of his own notes and experiments.
Reg.
Mike
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Hey again Jonathan,
That book is buried somewhere in a box but I believe the title is the Fantastic Inventions of Nikola Tesla. Like I said it is full of patents lecture writtings (from which that quote I gave came from) and even the WarddenCliffe trial. I need to make a correction. It wasn't that the gas became a solid, from memory it was there appeared a line with some nodes within the glass chamber the gas was and the line or thread hung down from the top and behaved just like a material thread under the influence of gravity. That was said in one of his lectures.
Reg.
Mike
That book is buried somewhere in a box but I believe the title is the Fantastic Inventions of Nikola Tesla. Like I said it is full of patents lecture writtings (from which that quote I gave came from) and even the WarddenCliffe trial. I need to make a correction. It wasn't that the gas became a solid, from memory it was there appeared a line with some nodes within the glass chamber the gas was and the line or thread hung down from the top and behaved just like a material thread under the influence of gravity. That was said in one of his lectures.
Reg.
Mike
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Tesla only used the city power supply once to power up his tower, which was then able to extract an endless supply of free electricity from the Earths ionosphere.
If you would like to know more about how Tesla's achieved this then please ask me, as it is a very simple concept to understand.
If you would like to know more about how Tesla's achieved this then please ask me, as it is a very simple concept to understand.
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Hi Paxi,Tesla achieved this...............it is a very simple concept
Please go ahead and explain it, as I'd love to hear it!!
Cheers
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Ah, I read that book. I found it disappointing, and don't remember the part you mention (it is overshadowed in my memory by the bizarre stuff at the end of the book (see reviews at link)).
Also, I agree with Sevich.
Also, I agree with Sevich.
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>Ah, I read that book. I found it disappointing, and don't remember the part you mention (it is overshadowed in my memory by the bizarre stuff at the end of the book (see reviews at link)).
Also, I agree with Sevich.
It was in a lecture he gave somewhere in the beginning of the book. Why did you find it disappointing, and what bizarre stuff are you talking about?
What do you agree with Sevich on?
Reg.
Mike
Also, I agree with Sevich.
It was in a lecture he gave somewhere in the beginning of the book. Why did you find it disappointing, and what bizarre stuff are you talking about?
What do you agree with Sevich on?
Reg.
Mike
meChANical Man.
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"All things move according to the whims of the great magnet"; Hunter S. Thompson.
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"All things move according to the whims of the great magnet"; Hunter S. Thompson.
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I found it disappointing because it didn't cover the inventions enough, and went into nonsense about Telsa being a reincarnated Atlantean engineer (I said to look at the link I gave, the reviews say this). Problem is that I was disappointed enough not to keep it, now Half-Price Books has it.
I agree with Sevich in that I want Pax Vobiscum to continue.
I agree with Sevich in that I want Pax Vobiscum to continue.
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