The Universal Gravity Wheel I promised you all, is IN HERE to appraise...
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The Universal Gravity Wheel I promised you all, is IN HERE
Let me, first of all, properly introduce myself. I am Raj Balkee of Goodlands, MAURITIUS, retired industrial professional, ex-UK resident. My passion for Perpetual Motion Machine/Gravity Wheel dates back to my OpenUniversity day in UK in the 1970s.
I have written two novels and invented/patented the Tide and Wave Concertina Energy Conversion Device.
I am, hereby, putting on show, my only patent-pending Universal Gravity Wheel, an outcome of many years of thinking and hundreds of drawings.All previous designs were much more complicated this present one, which I now sincerely think that there is something very attractive about it.
Here is then my Universal Gravity Wheel - UGW
Drawing 1 is a front view of the wheel.
Drawing 2 is a lateral view of the wheel.
( We do not need the rim in the wheel. we can find other means of fixing the strings and hooks.)
As shown in the drawings, UGW on axle (5) is mounted on structure (not shown)
Weight (2) hang/swing on string (3) attached next to diametrically opposite hook (4)
Hook (4) hangs on rim of drum-wheel (1)
Once installation of UGW is complete, and given a push or pull, the four weights (2) hang/swing on string (3), get caught on hook (4) on the descending side of drum-wheel (1), and get released from hook (4) on the ascending side of the drum-wheel (1), making the weight (2) swing always towards the descending sideof drum-wheel (1), thereby, providing continuous momentum and a net torque on the descending side of the wheel.
UGW (1) turns, and weight (2) changetheir respective positionsinside the wheel, and continue their hanging/swinging.
Every 45 degrees turn of drum-wheel (1), the weight (2) interchange their positions and the cycle continues, producing continuous net torque on UGW to get power to turn a generator for electricity or other useful output device.
Here I am more concerned about the basic concept of my invention.
As I have said in my other posts, I am not really sure if I have found anything worthwhile. Just to find out, I have given here, the COMPLETE description and drawing for you all to analyse kindly for me and let me have your comments and feedback in full sincerity.
I look patiently forward to read you all in here soonest.
I sincerely thank you all for your kind interest in my gravitywheel design.
Raj
I have written two novels and invented/patented the Tide and Wave Concertina Energy Conversion Device.
I am, hereby, putting on show, my only patent-pending Universal Gravity Wheel, an outcome of many years of thinking and hundreds of drawings.All previous designs were much more complicated this present one, which I now sincerely think that there is something very attractive about it.
Here is then my Universal Gravity Wheel - UGW
Drawing 1 is a front view of the wheel.
Drawing 2 is a lateral view of the wheel.
( We do not need the rim in the wheel. we can find other means of fixing the strings and hooks.)
As shown in the drawings, UGW on axle (5) is mounted on structure (not shown)
Weight (2) hang/swing on string (3) attached next to diametrically opposite hook (4)
Hook (4) hangs on rim of drum-wheel (1)
Once installation of UGW is complete, and given a push or pull, the four weights (2) hang/swing on string (3), get caught on hook (4) on the descending side of drum-wheel (1), and get released from hook (4) on the ascending side of the drum-wheel (1), making the weight (2) swing always towards the descending sideof drum-wheel (1), thereby, providing continuous momentum and a net torque on the descending side of the wheel.
UGW (1) turns, and weight (2) changetheir respective positionsinside the wheel, and continue their hanging/swinging.
Every 45 degrees turn of drum-wheel (1), the weight (2) interchange their positions and the cycle continues, producing continuous net torque on UGW to get power to turn a generator for electricity or other useful output device.
Here I am more concerned about the basic concept of my invention.
As I have said in my other posts, I am not really sure if I have found anything worthwhile. Just to find out, I have given here, the COMPLETE description and drawing for you all to analyse kindly for me and let me have your comments and feedback in full sincerity.
I look patiently forward to read you all in here soonest.
I sincerely thank you all for your kind interest in my gravitywheel design.
Raj
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Here is the second drawing
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Edit: Well I thought it was exactly one of my models, but reading the description made it different... Sorry..
I don't understand exactly your weight shifting tho...
I don't understand exactly your weight shifting tho...
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Hi raj, and welcome to the madness.
Thanks for sharing your designs
I'm not an expert like some of the senior members of this site, but in my opinion, your wheel is going to experience what we calll the "keeling effect". On this site that's what we call it when the center of gravity finds itself at the 6 oclock position on the wheel. What most of us here have been trying to do for years is to get that CoG at the 3 oclock position, then the wheel keeps turning trying to get the CoG at 6 were it would come to rest. The trick is to never let the CoG get to the 6 oclock position.
With regards
Leo
Thanks for sharing your designs
I'm not an expert like some of the senior members of this site, but in my opinion, your wheel is going to experience what we calll the "keeling effect". On this site that's what we call it when the center of gravity finds itself at the 6 oclock position on the wheel. What most of us here have been trying to do for years is to get that CoG at the 3 oclock position, then the wheel keeps turning trying to get the CoG at 6 were it would come to rest. The trick is to never let the CoG get to the 6 oclock position.
With regards
Leo
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The wheel as in drawing (1) is not in equilibrium already without any push or pull, which will make the wheel reach this unbalanced position as soon as we push or pull the wheel.
Therefore the wheel will turn on the side that has more weights. As the wheel turns, one of the four weights will get releasedon the ascending side and will swing on its string on its pivot on the rim, through added momentum will continue its swing till it get caught on the descending side of the wheel, while its pivot point reaches the 12 o'clock position, the wheel having done a 45 degrees turn.
And the cycle restart...
Therefore the wheel will turn on the side that has more weights. As the wheel turns, one of the four weights will get releasedon the ascending side and will swing on its string on its pivot on the rim, through added momentum will continue its swing till it get caught on the descending side of the wheel, while its pivot point reaches the 12 o'clock position, the wheel having done a 45 degrees turn.
And the cycle restart...
Patent pending, really?
Here's a more basic version of your idea:
http://www.besslerwheel.com/wiki/index. ... Mt_001.gif
Here's a more basic version of your idea:
http://www.besslerwheel.com/wiki/index. ... Mt_001.gif
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Sorry Broli.
I find no similarity between my design and MT 01 which I am already family with.
I thank you for your comment.
I find no similarity between my design and MT 01 which I am already family with.
I thank you for your comment.
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Raj, I have great difficulties understanding words, I am more of a visual person, I don't grasp writing quite well when describing mechanism.. Is it possible to draw something like 4 frames of your wheel, from start to reset?!
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Lustinblack, I just try to explain in another way.
Just imagine a balanced see-saw at an inclined position at 45 degrees with the horizontal plane with a 3 kg weight (representing 3 weights in my design) on the lower end of the see-saw and another one kg weight ( representing the weight on the ascending side of my wheel), hanging on a string from the other end of the see-saw.
Because of the huge differential in weight ( torque), the 3 kg will move/swing downwards, and with gained momentum, will pass past the 6 0'clock position, before trying to swing back to an equilibrium position. By which time, the lone one kg weight will not stop at the 12 o'clock position, but with gained momentum will continue to swing well past the 12 o,clock position and add leverage to the descending side of the see-saw.
This can be easily test on a bicycle wheel, if you will/
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Just imagine a balanced see-saw at an inclined position at 45 degrees with the horizontal plane with a 3 kg weight (representing 3 weights in my design) on the lower end of the see-saw and another one kg weight ( representing the weight on the ascending side of my wheel), hanging on a string from the other end of the see-saw.
Because of the huge differential in weight ( torque), the 3 kg will move/swing downwards, and with gained momentum, will pass past the 6 0'clock position, before trying to swing back to an equilibrium position. By which time, the lone one kg weight will not stop at the 12 o'clock position, but with gained momentum will continue to swing well past the 12 o,clock position and add leverage to the descending side of the see-saw.
This can be easily test on a bicycle wheel, if you will/
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Hi raj,
I think the swing back to the other side will not make the hooks it will fall short as the pendulum affect will come into play (moving less distance with every swing), try this simple experiment get a weight and string hold the weight less end of the string then rotate your hand in a circle you will soon find that it will not get the swing you need, also the hooks will be moving away from the swinging weight!
I think you should still build it though as you may discover some thing good may come of it! just pick up an old bike wheel some bits of metal and some string and who know what you my find? good entertainment that is certain.
I think the swing back to the other side will not make the hooks it will fall short as the pendulum affect will come into play (moving less distance with every swing), try this simple experiment get a weight and string hold the weight less end of the string then rotate your hand in a circle you will soon find that it will not get the swing you need, also the hooks will be moving away from the swinging weight!
I think you should still build it though as you may discover some thing good may come of it! just pick up an old bike wheel some bits of metal and some string and who know what you my find? good entertainment that is certain.
I have been wrong before!
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I have been right before!
Hindsight will tell us!
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A slight precision.
The lengths of strings are idential, exactly cover the distance of two ends of a quadrant on the rim. The weights are identical. the hooks are identical. The weights move each in a different vertical plane.
The lengths of strings are idential, exactly cover the distance of two ends of a quadrant on the rim. The weights are identical. the hooks are identical. The weights move each in a different vertical plane.
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Hello Trevor. Nice to hear from you.
I am trying a small four weights model prototype for days now ( not a cylindrical wheel , more like a bicycle wheel). Each time the swinging weight goes past the 3'oclock position, hitting the rim on the descending side every time.
I believe it the gained momentum that causes this extra swinging.
I am trying a small four weights model prototype for days now ( not a cylindrical wheel , more like a bicycle wheel). Each time the swinging weight goes past the 3'oclock position, hitting the rim on the descending side every time.
I believe it the gained momentum that causes this extra swinging.
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Ok I get it now .. Your Hook wasn't clear in definition, I thought the hook was on the end of the string and hooked to the middle of part 4 (see saw) when in fact, the see saw IS the hook on descending side.
Brilliant, I love it! .. you'll have a problem with the hook tho, I believe it will unhook under the pressure of weight 2, not sure, but it could be used as an advantage.. When your weight gets trapped by the hook at the right, the weight under the hook will shift toward the right and create more leverage..
Under CF your hook will NOT work, so you must maintain a low speed.. I think you are onto something ...
Btw, think dynamic, in rotation your seesaw will bind in the weight when the weights is swinging toward it.. You'll have to make your weight move "at an angle toward the hook" ... If you understand what I mean .
You'll have a problem with swinging the left weight.. It will not swing before ~9 oclock and will certainly not go to 3 for free.. Your advantage at 3 (seesaw weight toward right) will probably compensate, but this will stay static.. I think something is missing, but the idea is interesting.
Brilliant, I love it! .. you'll have a problem with the hook tho, I believe it will unhook under the pressure of weight 2, not sure, but it could be used as an advantage.. When your weight gets trapped by the hook at the right, the weight under the hook will shift toward the right and create more leverage..
Under CF your hook will NOT work, so you must maintain a low speed.. I think you are onto something ...
Btw, think dynamic, in rotation your seesaw will bind in the weight when the weights is swinging toward it.. You'll have to make your weight move "at an angle toward the hook" ... If you understand what I mean .
You'll have a problem with swinging the left weight.. It will not swing before ~9 oclock and will certainly not go to 3 for free.. Your advantage at 3 (seesaw weight toward right) will probably compensate, but this will stay static.. I think something is missing, but the idea is interesting.
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hi raj,
So the weights want to swing to the midle but instead pull the rim (wheel) around?
So the weights want to swing to the midle but instead pull the rim (wheel) around?
I have been wrong before!
I have been right before!
Hindsight will tell us!
I have been right before!
Hindsight will tell us!
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raj
Thank you for showing and with a build you will learn allot about what you are facing. Play with your mountings and see what changes that may happen. Several of us have worked on similar wheels and there are things that are best learned by experience. Yes I have built similar wheels before and they all have the same basic problem. But the approach has more roads to explore.
Thank you for showing and with a build you will learn allot about what you are facing. Play with your mountings and see what changes that may happen. Several of us have worked on similar wheels and there are things that are best learned by experience. Yes I have built similar wheels before and they all have the same basic problem. But the approach has more roads to explore.
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Old and future wheel videos
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Alan