Atwoods Analysis

[pequaide]

You can not know input momentum without knowing input kinetic energy, because they use the same variables.

I have given details of my experiments several times, and they do include input momentum and input kinetic energy.

I have not done a thousand to one mass difference (for the larger mass giving its motion to a smaller mass) but I have done 40 to one. It should be easy to see the difference between 6.3 m/sec and 40 m/sec. All in attendance agreed that we were dealing with dangerous sphere velocities, even though the wheel was spun only gently.

[Wubbly]

I have given details of my experiments several times, and they do include input momentum and input kinetic energy.

My bad. I must not have the patience to wade through a 45 page thread spanning over one year.
Pequaide, do you have a link to one of your experiments where you show the measured input numbers and the measured output numbers?

[WaltzCee]

who started this thread?

[Wubbly]

Walter, If you press the General Discussion button, there is a row that says "Author". You could also look at the very first post in a thread. That might give you a clue.
And who are you quoting all the time? ;>

[WaltzCee]

Dearest Wubbly,

If you are indeed the sucker that started this thread you should have adequate interest in it to have the patience to wade through the 45 pages you have caused to happen over the last year.

It's your baby. Also don't change the subject.

your bad, my arse.

[ovyyus]

Walt, you might tell your boss he's doing you no favours.

[broli]

pequaide, you're waisting your time on this forum. Over the years name one person who has reached down his hand for you to produce a clear scientific experimental paper/video presentation. You see this forum is infected with the ME virus, where everyone thinks he'll discover "the wheel" so to become rich and famous afterwards. This thought alone is hilarious and sad. The irony is that if someone wants to help he's labeled a leecher or liberal because helping others for no reason is so different from their brainwashed lives.

The definition of real science is unknown on this forum. Instead child games like finding clues and solving puzzle pieces are preferred. But what did you expect on a gravity wheel forum. A gravity wheel would make a nice museum piece unless it's powered by plutonium. The delusion of solving the energy "crisis" with a gravity wheel is as grand as the moon. I see old men here thinking like teenagers which is kind of sad indeed. The momentum transfer however can produce kilowatts of power on earth or in outer space.

I will tell you this, stay here and talk here and you will achieve nothing. I saw great potential in this put and tried spreading the idea around. But without the cooperation from the creator and a solid experimental presentation you won't get far.

[jim_mich]

broli, the early American colonies were founded on the principle of sharing. They were socialistic communes where the fruits of one's labor was shared equally with everyone else in the community. The people starved to death because why should anyone work harder than the next guy if they all received the same rewards? Only after everyone was given their own plot of land to work did the colonies prosper. Each family prospered because each family gained the fruits of their own labor. People will work specially hard for their spouse and children. They tend to not work so hard for the lazy drunk bum down the road.

The blood suckers that want other people to share equally do so because they selfishly want to gain from other people's work.

If you want something done then just forge ahead of the pack and do it. Do it for humanity, if that is your desire. Do for the benefit of you and your family. Do it for the pleasure of just doing it. But don't force your will onto other's expecting them to do it for you.

[broli]

Jim you must be wearing your glasses that twist words. It's oke it just proves my point once again. Out of all the "free energy" forums this place has the least amount of COLLABORATION I have seen, that alone must say something about you and everyone else here. Soon when you die you will understand.

[jim_mich]

Soon when you die you will understand.

Are you expecting me to die soon?

[broli]

Statistically speaking.

[KAS]

It is true that members of this forum tend to be secretive with their own research, only presenting it when they know it to be a failure. I am also guilty of this.
But I don't think that this is entirely a bad thing.

It is imperative that we research our own piece of this niggling puzzle to its end, only then will be totally satisfied that the road we took was a dead-ender.

Then, by posting the results, it may prove to be the missing piece of someone else's dead-ender.

There are different types of collaboration.

Kas

[broli]

KAS I'm not asking you to give your ideas. This is about helping members who do give their ideas.

[jim_mich]

This is about helping members who do give their ideas.

Sometimes the best way to help someone it to do nothing. An inquisitive child asks, "What will happen it I do such and such?" The adult know full well the results. But many times it is best to say, "Do it and see what happens." In that way the child learns much better using hand on experience than through verbal explanations. This is why demonstrations are common in physics classes.

[murilo]

Broli, hello!
Above we see clearly the secret of jim's happiness!

This is a typical behavior of a mind, over all, cold, blocked, cemented, not satisfied, sociopath, insensible, unstable, selfish and with mind boards around his own nose... 'statistically dead'! :)

Nothing to complain, since this is a common stuff in politicians, medicine doctors, bureaucrats, mafias and so on in people who manage to the 'NO'... the power of the negative.

They use their power of the 'NO' even if any of their acts would be usefull to million of people, to all humanity.

They have a very strange and distorted way of be fair and of be pedagogic to 'ignorant'.

If I can be helpful to you...
I wish you some stuff better than this.
Murilo