Oxygons "Slip-wheel" PMM

[Oxygon]

This is basically a hybrid version...

I am sorry for the "Information Dump" in so many posts...

One of these gotta work, ha?

the inner magnet is in position according to the inner circle field polarity...

the outer magnet acts as a "lever" and twist the arm to the closest possible outer field proximity...

when it gets to close, the inner magnet "shoots" accross to the other side... changing the "axis"...

Also the momentum of the whole thing wipping around would overcome any inhibiting forces...

later...

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F/E - 2004!

[Sevich]

Nice attempt oxy!


I toyed with Adsitt's design thinking it would go all the way around....no such luck. The best I can get out of this design is a 95% loop

I guess I could get same 95% result if I only used one magnet at the starting point instead of 30 or so.

Might try out your 'Oxygon's Flip-Flopper' version.

you'll hear from me if it works.

[Oxygon]

Nice attempt oxy!

... what? Are spec. you refering too? "you make sound like its been done already?" where...?

I toyed with Adsitt's design thinking it would go all the way around....no such luck. The best I can get out of this design is a 95% loop

I never said anything about adsitt...? what are you refering too?

I guess I could get same 95% result if I only used one magnet at the starting point instead of 30 or so.

... whats the picture of...???? the perimeter isn't complete?

[scott]

To me this idea looks a lot like the Peregrinus motor:
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/rmodmk3.htm

[Jonathan]

Boy Oxy you are full of questions! Here's a Sevich to English translation:
"Nice attempt oxy!"=nice design
"I toyed with Adsitt's design..."=work he's done that he thinks is similar
"... whats the picture of...???? the perimeter isn't complete?"
The picture is of Sevich's Adsitt device. I figure it didn't work so he's already canibalized it.

[Sevich]

Hi Oxy,

....What? Are spec. you refering too? "you make sound like it's been done already?" Where....?

I'm refering to your "Slip-Wheel" ....I admire your attempt, wheather it'll work or not is a matter of testing. Let's hope it works (literally)

I never said anything about Adsitt...? What are you refering too?

http://www.theverylastpageoftheinternet ... eomenu.htm
Down load short movies

....What's the picture off...???? the perimeter is'nt complete?

"That's right"! .....it is'nt complete!! had it built two months ago in the hope it would continue the cycle with a completed perimeter (tried it)....NO GO!
Magnets are forced together at the rim. They'd shoot out like bullits without masking tape holding them in position. All in all, it's a flawed concept.

At least the base can be used for other ideas.

You summed it up well Jonathan! ...lol

[Oxygon]

To me this idea looks a lot like the Peregrinus motor:
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/rmodmk3.htm

it looks nothing like it...

the axis changes on my design...

[Jonathan]

I think he meant that Sevich's device looks like the Peregrinus motor.

[Oxygon]

http://www.theverylastpageoftheinternet ... eomenu.htm
Down load short movies

how does that relate...

I watched the movies and am aware of his work...

I don't see the relation...?

I don't see the relation...

the axis is determined by the inner magnet

the outer magnets attraction to the wall is determined by the shifting axis...

axis is always closer to one side, outer magnets wants to got to that side of the outer wall...

I don't see the problem here guys... seriously...

[Sevich]

Hi Oxygen,

the outer magnets attraction to the wall is determined by the shifting axis

I see this to be your theory!

So when do you plan on building and testing your design?

[Lightwave]

you get 95%, can you add another magnet on the shorter end of the
center arm with a small inner rim of magnets for the 5% to get it started again

[Sevich]

hi

Even with a small rim of inner magnets, I think it would'nt change the situation because the main problem is getting past the "pull" of the last magnet, so as to continue the cycle.

[Oxygon]

hi

Even with a small rim of inner magnets, I think it would'nt change the situation because the main problem is getting past the "pull" of the last magnet, so as to continue the cycle.

I see what you are saying but look again at the image included...

the central magnet is "surrounded" by magnets and the switch from one axis spot to the other possible axis is sudden and quick...

the outer magnet is attracted to the wall, but its attraction is controlled by its axis... which doesn't vary except near the end of a cycle... the power derived is torsional... not direct... the torsional energy is used to change the angle of the inner magnet with reference to the inner magnetic ring surrounding it...

More magnetic tension within the inner circle than holding the outer magnet to the closest part of the wall...

beside remember the "inertial influence"... this would help carry the outer magnetic arm thru...

...

[Oxygon]

Hi Oxygen,

the outer magnets attraction to the wall is determined by the shifting axis

I see this to be your theory!

So when do you plan on building and testing your design?

never... cant build anything...

constructurually(sp?) inept... ;P

[Sevich]

Hi
Oxy wrote

never...can't build anything...

You gotta be kidding! ..anyone can build, it just takes a little mucking around.

The 25 X 40 X 10mm magnets cost me around $1.30 each..."cheap as chips" ..........you'll have fun for hours!!!

As for this "Slip-Wheel" I just can't see it happening according to your expectations? The supposed clicking & clonking by the arm in the center circle of magnets is of concern as well as a drawback as a working model.