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I dont contribute much to this forum when it comes to math, physics and all that stuff thats is way over my head because i dont have the proper education in these matters......
And in the hunt fore a selfmoving wheel the answer lies not in the physics, math and other academic subjects, that is mighty fine when the working wheel is a atlast dicovered, i think the answer lies in asking the right questions..

So here is my new question fore all the bright and good fellows around here..

Which way does gravity work?


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In older women, it works down. ;)
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Hi Rune,

Straight down to the core of the mass getting stronger and stronger the closer you get to the core!

Get a book on basic physics that's what I did to learn, you do not need to go any higher than that just research what is of interest to your self, I personally found that my experiments where not covered by known physics and that Newton third law was wrong, and according to Newton as soon as you put weight on a wheel gravity becomes nothing, the guy should have stuck to looking at pretty colours! looking over people's shoulders, not standing on other people's shoulders!

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Trevor, at the centre of a mass gravity will be acting equally in all directions.
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killemaces . . . . profile says you are in Norway?

English can be an awkward language.

Maybe your question is "HOW does gravity work?"
or perhaps "WHAT is gravity?" or "WHAT causes gravity?"


Do you want to know about scientific theories of gravity?
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killemaces wrote:Which way does gravity work?
Push or Pull theory ?
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If you think about it, it is physically impossible to ever Pull something. It always works out to be a variation of a Push. Try to 'pull' a door open ... if you succeed, you have really just pushed it backwards towards yourself by applying pressure to the handle in your direction.

The idea of masses attracting each other from a distance seems like a fairy tale to me. On a par with the fairy tale about space/time being curved etc.

The truth is, nobody actually knows what Gravity is. There are plenty of theories.

Here are some simple facts that should confuse the issue completely ...

Google "fundamental forces relative strength" and you will find that The Electric Field is 10 to the power of 30 Times more powerful than the gravitational field. (or stronger - depending on which source you quote).

There have been some extremely gifted people who have believed that the fundamental action of the universe are much better explained in electrical terms, and that gravity hardly makes any difference. Or that gravity IS electrical. Or magnetic, which is strongly related to electricity.

Consider this: galaxies and solar systems are generally disc shaped, not spherical. That supports the notion of a polarized force field, rather than the non-polarised attraction that Gravity is supposed to display.

Aren't we taught that electrically charged particles of the same polarity repel each other? Well think again, next time you pull your socks out of the dryer and have to peel them apart due to the static charges ...

There is a whole bunch of extremely interesting stuff that make me consider that gravity as we experience is probably much more about electric forces than anything else.

Leedskalnin - the Coral Castle guy - had a strange theory that is starting to make more sense to me the more I try to wrap my head around it. He was able to levitate massive rocks, apparantly using very basic electromagnetic components. The Searle Effect - the rotating magnet system that busted loose and vertically ascended ...

The more we try to figure out what gravity IS, the more we find we don't know. These sort of questions have driven the men/boys who have come up with various theories and driven Science as we know it. (Perhaps driven into a ditch or blind alleys - maybe the military keep the best secrets for themselves - who knows ...)

These are very deep questions, and basic school text book information is far too glib and shallow to be anything more than an introduction.

What did Bessler find? I'm thinking he found something deeper than we might think ...
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greendoor wrote:Leedskalnin - the Coral Castle guy - had a strange theory that is starting to make more sense to me the more I try to wrap my head around it. He was able to levitate massive rocks, apparantly using very basic electromagnetic components. The Searle Effect - the rotating magnet system that busted loose and vertically ascended ...
Edward Leedskalnin never said he 'levitated' the coral rocks (relatively porous and light) with electromagnetism. Certainly there have been book publishing 'free-thinkers' who might have us believe otherwise in order to maximi$e interest. But we're not that gullible, right?

Searle is off with the fairies. He was investigated at considerable expense by a friend some years ago who was interested in doing business with the guy. This investigation involved personal visits and interviews before committing development funds. He tracked down quoted past associates and contacts who, it was claimed, saw his early disk operate. They gave the worst possible character references for this mad hatter (actually, mercury poisoning would explain everything to a tee). Of course that doesn't stop the gullible falling into belief stupors over the man's silly and constantly changing sales pitches.

Greendoor, how will you ever discover what's really behind these smoke and mirrors with your mind in the WWW and your feet on a soapbox?
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greendoor ;

i'd like you to show me the proper way to push a chain .
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Gravity. I explain what I think gravity is (and how it works) within my book, Gravity-Wheel Unveiled. You may download its 18 March 2019 free .pdf file, at https://gravityunveiled.home.blog/. Consider details in Chapter 2 “GRAVITY BASED ON DISCRETE ELECTRIC FIELDS�. There are two parts of the discrete graviton made up of two discrete electric fields, coming from discrete finest fundamental opposite charges. I explain why the graviton (or rather gravity) is so weak. It has five formation conditions/constraints for the two discrete electric fields to pair-up to form a graviton and five absorption conditions/constraints for the two discrete electric fields of the graviton to be attractively absorbed by finest fundamental charges that are opposite the charges that gave them origin. I explain that there are two attractive pulls down in a graviton, with the lower-elevation pull-down almost-always applied first.

Bessler Principle. Because of that there is an increase in rotational kinetic energy for any wheel (of any size) rotating about a horizontal axis, though nearly-ubiquitous friction almost always removes the acquired kinetic energy. See Chapter 3 “BESSLER’S PRINCIPLE� of my book. I provide much evidence in my book for the Bessler principle. The many evidences for the Bessler principle suggest that we have come upon the correct explanation for what gravity is and how it works. In my book, in separate appendices (B and D), I speak of two particular very-low-friction perpetual-motion devices that made use of the Bessler principle. The devices were previously coded in books.

Little Decoded Books Available. Also at https://gravityunveiled.home.blog/, one may download 18 Mar 2019 free .pdf versions of both Bessler's (1717) and Leedskalnin's (1936) decoded little books. My decoded books are, Bessler's Little Book Decoded and A Book in Every Home Decoded. Both authors curiously called their own original coded book by the same term, "little book", as if their little books were meant to be greatly expanded when finally understood. The little books spoke of separate perpetual motion inventions though in different physical regimes. Both Bessler and Leedskalnin used the same encryption key of the Bessler principle (which may also be called the ED.L. principle or the yin-yang principle or the stone mason principle). I used that decryption key for decoding both little books. By apparently common expectation of both Bessler and Leedskalnin, when people eventually were to discover or rediscover the Bessler principle, then in both cases the people would hold the decryption key for decoding both the little coded books.

Build a Perpetual Motion Machine. Bessler told how to build his ultra-low-friction roller bearings, which could turn almost any wheel into a perpetual motion machine. Leedskalnin told how to build his rapidly-rotating Sweet-Sixteen-family of massive limestone cylinders using ordinary roller bearings, for example those used to rotate truck axles and wheels. I think that Ed’s Sweet Sixteen family of cylinders was his actual perpetual motion holder or his mechanical perpetual motion machine powered by gravity. Ed’s cylinders would need to be rapidly rotating but not too rapidly rotating. Ed rotationally connected his father, mother, and daughter cylinders by using three ultra-low-friction magnetically-repulsive sprocket-wheels. The 24/16 times faster daughter cylinder had less air friction because of its much smaller size. If we build one of these devices (Orffyrean roller bearing or the Sweet Sixteen family of cylinders), if we use the device according to its decoded instructions, and if the device works as expected, then this would provide much further evidence that we have come upon the correct explanation for what gravity is and how it works. I am not saying that it would be easy to build one of these devices but it is possible to build one of them, if we want to see another example of a perpetual motion machine, which is powered by two-part attractive gravitons. AEP – 11 Apr 2019
Alden E. Park, https://gravityunveiled.home.blog/ for free .pdf books: Gravity-Wheel Unveiled (GWU), Bessler's Little Book Decoded (BLBD), and A Book in Every Home Decoded (BEHD). Also see https://gravity-wheel.neocities.org/
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So if you have the answers why not build it yourself?
I can understand making the knowledge available after proving it but why take the time and expense of figuring out besslers code and then writing and publishing a book without any supporting evidence.

It would be like Michael Jordan expla8ning how to win NBA championships when still in college. Witj9ut supporting proof or very good evidence your opinion is worth as much as mine. Why should anyone invest in a book on how to raise kids for example when the author doesn't have any kids or experience raising kids ?
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Another question I have is that with modern technology and magnetic bearings and super conductors they have the ability to make virtually frictionless bearings and yet no perpetual motion. What gives ? Friction is a negative you still need excess energy .
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killemaces wrote: Which way does gravity work?
Asking lateral questions and getting lateral answer can kick out some new ideas.

So the answer is gravity does not work. For gravity is an effect, a process that has no existence.

How does a thermos flask keep the hot water hot? How does it work at keeping the temperature just wright?

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