A letter to Bush

[Michael]

Pass it along, it was sent to me.

Dear President Bush

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I
have
learned a great deal from you and understand why you would propose and
support a constitutional amendment banning same sex marriage. As you
said,
"in the eyes of God marriage is based between a man and a woman." I try
to
share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries
to
defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that
Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination....End of
debate.

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements
of
God's Laws and how to follow them.

1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and
female,
provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine
claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you
clarify?
Why can't I own Canadians?

2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in
Exodus
21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for
her?

3. TI know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in
her
period of menstrual uncleanness - Lev.15: 19-24. The problem is how do
I
tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a
pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is, my neighbors.
They
claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus
35:2.
clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to
kill him
myself, or should I ask the police to do it?

6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an
abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than
homosexuality. I
don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there 'degrees' of abomination?

7. Lev.21:20 states that I may ! not approach the altar of God if I
have a
defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses.Does my
vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle-room here?

8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair
around their temples, even though Lev. 19 expressly forbids this: 27.
How
should they die?

9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes
me
unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two
different
crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of
two
different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to
curse
and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the
trouble of
getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't
we
just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with
people
who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy
considerable expertise in such matters, so I am confident you can help.
Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and
unchanging.

[epistemologicide]

lol bravo

another thing bush.

there is nothing in the bible about saving the planet, and observing , comprehending, understanding and copying nature..

so how practical can the book be.

[Oxygon]

lol...

religious wackos...

gotta love'em...

[Sevich]

Hi Oxi'

Don't lauht now.....but you'll become one of us, sooner than you think..lol

Techstuff is smiling..!!

;)

[Patrick]

Bravo indeed,
It is amazing to see people so brazenly blaspheme against God under the guise of political commentary. And lame political commentary at that. The books being referred to (Genesis and Leviticus) were written by Moses. He wrote these in an effort to guide the nation of Israel at a time when day-to-day customs were very different than they are today. A lot of what Moses wrote was his interpretation of what he felt God wanted him to say. Moses was fallible. He murdered a man, had at least two wives and often second-guessed God. The ten-commandments were specific instructions which are no less relevant today than when they were given to Moses.
The LORD bringeth the counsel of the heathen to nought: he maketh the devices of the people of none effect. Transgression speaks to the ungodly within his heart; There is no fear of God before his eyes.

[Jonathan]

I have to agree with Patrick, this goes on the long list of texts I have read where the author clearly read the Bible, but didn't understand a single word.

[Oxygon]

"A lot of what Moses wrote was his interpretation of what he felt God wanted him to say. Moses was fallible. He murdered a man, had at least two wives and often second-guessed God. The ten-commandments were specific instructions which are no less relevant today than when they were given to Moses"

here is the problem... some "people" believe the bible to be the unerrant word of god... All of it... etc...

which brings us into some difficulty...

others seem to pick & choose...

which I am not knocking...

Some of the bible is out-dated...

revision of wording may be neccesary, although dangerous...

the intents of the wording can all be debated...

[MrTim]

here is the problem... some "people" believe the bible to be the unerrant word of god... All of it... etc...

which brings us into some difficulty...

others seem to pick & choose...

which I am not knocking...

Some of the bible is out-dated...

revision of wording may be neccesary, although dangerous...

the intents of the wording can all be debated...

Hmmm....
I thought "Thou shalt not kill" was pretty specific.
It's sad that people ignore that one.

[Jonathan]

As an off-shoot of both Epi's and MrTim's posts, a better translation would be "Thou shalt not murder", because the Bible warants killing under some circumstances (it is justified to kill a murderer, esp. in self defense; a justified killing is just called a killing, and an unjustified killing of a person is called murder).

[ovyyus]

So... it's OK to kill if we have permission?

[Michael]

>Bravo indeed,
It is amazing to see people so brazenly blaspheme against God under the guise of political commentary. And lame political commentary at that. The books being referred to (Genesis and Leviticus) were written by Moses. He wrote these in an effort to guide the nation of Israel at a time when day-to-day customs were very different than they are today. A lot of what Moses wrote was his interpretation of what he felt God wanted him to say. Moses was fallible. He murdered a man, had at least two wives and often second-guessed God. The ten-commandments were specific instructions which are no less relevant today than when they were given to Moses.
The LORD bringeth the counsel of the heathe

Guess what Patrick, you need to do your research.

1.Moses came up out of Egypt. Egypt had a hell of a lot of a more just society and lawfulness than most places of the world of today do.

2. How can you speak for Moses, like other personages written about in certain texts, when there is no proof he actually existed?

3. Who gave these commandements to Moses...God? HA! They existed hundreds of years before hand on stone monuments erected by the Sumerians!

4. So it is not okay for someone to use quotes from the bible for political commentary, but it is okay for a political leader to use them to try and strengthen his agenda?

5. What in your mind constitutes blasphemy?

Reg.

Mike

[Patrick]

Egypt had a hell of a lot of a more just society and lawfulness than most places of the world of today do.

Egypt at the time was a dictatorship that was ruled by the pharoah(s) using mass slavery to fufill the methods of worshiping Ra (the god of the sun). Do you call mass enslavement of the bulk of the population both Jews and Egyptians [mostly the Jews] 'just' and 'lawful'?

How can you speak for Moses, like other personages written about in certain texts, when there is no proof he actually existed?

The Pentateuch is a historical document. Look up 'Moses' in any encyclopedia; Britannica for example. That is like saying, What proof do you have that Plato ever existed? (400 BC) What about George Washington. They call it 'recorded history' for a reason.

Who gave these commandements to Moses...God? HA! They existed hundreds of years before hand on stone monuments erected by the Sumerians!

So you put faith in the history of the Sumerians, which is sketchy at best and yet question the bible...hmmm... okay....good luck on that one. You might want to double check the source and the dating methods with respect to Sumerians or should I say Cimmerians or should I say Egyptians; hey wait a minute... Moses was raised as an Egyptian and kept in touch quite a fair bit with Ramses....hmmm two plus two equals ....no, couldn't be, since they predate Moses by hundreds of years....yep check that ol' carbon dating stuff and you'll see the Sumerians are the same age as Charlton Heston.
And by the way, if you put any belief in the history of the Sumerians, then you are contradicting your statement about 'what proof is there that Moses existed'.

So it is not okay for someone to use quotes from the bible for political commentary, but it is okay for a political leader to use them to try and strengthen his agenda?

Go nuts man, whatever??? The point I was trying to make is that the email you are forwarding is an inductive fallacy of false analogy. A what? An inductive fallacy of false analogy. It goes like this, Bush quotes the bible to support his agenda. Therefore Bush believes in the following bible quotes (inductive fallacy); therefore since Bush believes these particular biblical conclusions, he promotes those biblical conclusions. (false analogy.) So you must (should) agree, the commentary presented was indeed lame.

What in your mind constitutes blasphemy?

Maybe you could ask God this question? Who am I to say?...
Mind you, I do like this simple definition:
"Blasphemy" = "Determined opposition to God"

[epistemologicide]

couldent resist about moses.

he would have to be over 800 years of age to atcheive every thing he did.

the only cultures that have sustainable wisdom are the indigenous cultures communal working and understanding nature.

i suggest every one read about schaubergers awareness in this field (sustainable knowledge and comprehending nature) as it applys to US.

[Michael]

>Egypt at the time was a dictatorship that was ruled by the pharoah(s) using mass slavery to fufill the methods of worshiping Ra (the god of the sun). Do you call mass enslavement of the bulk of the population both Jews and Egyptians [mostly the Jews] 'just' and 'lawful'?

It had some tryants in certain dynasties but for the most part Egypt was slave free. The building of the pyramids and other monuments was done on a volunteer basis, but the volunteers were paid in beer. Egypt felt all life was sacred and even had the death penalty if one killed a cat during one period in its history.


>The Pentateuch is a historical document. Look up 'Moses' in any encyclopedia; Britannica for example. That is like saying, What proof do you have that Plato ever existed? (400 BC) What about George Washington. They call it 'recorded history' for a reason.

Real recorded history only came about with the Roman empire. Usually anything predating that is regarded as just stories or alegory by scholars.

Quote:
Who gave these commandements to Moses...God? HA! They existed hundreds of years before hand on stone monuments erected by the Sumerians!


>So you put faith in the history of the Sumerians, which is sketchy at best and yet question the bible...

Oh really? So the monuments left behind and the science ie. our number system, the wheel, 360 degrees etc. really aren't real and the period dating is false?

>Go nuts man, whatever??? The point I was trying to make is that the email you are forwarding is an inductive fallacy of false analogy.

It's facitous humour used to make a point.

> So you must (should) agree, the commentary presented was indeed lame.

Actually I thought it was funny. Obvious yes, so you could say lame if you want, but still funny.



Reg.

Mike

[epistemologicide]

it seems we can go off topic in the off topic threads..

you know egypt apparently had a female pharoah, but her son tryed to erase her out of existance, apparently she was one of the fairest and best!! no that is

NAUGHTY

gotta love maturnal and compassionate naturess.

ahrrr the godesss..