Scott, would you please ban this jack ass (for the third time). He brings nothing of any value to this discussion board. The main reason why I migrated over to BW from OU.com was because if his incessant rambling and spamming of threads.
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Bessler's 2 Wheels
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Well, if Einstein said that he must have been quite a clever boy. Of course something needs to be independent of the wheel. At least momentarily. Removed not from gravity, but from putting force on the wheel. The simplest illustration (silly of course) is is mass dump of a bouncy ball. During the time the ball is driving wheel from 12 to 4, it's good. When it falls off, the wheel will have accumulated enough momentum to carry on through 12 and in this mad ideal scenario, the bouncy ball bounces up to 12 quite conveniently and performs the trick again. That is oversimplifying things, but if Albert said what he is supposed to have, this is what he would have been talking about.not_me wrote: A quote by Einstein is that for a wheel to work, it needs something independent of the wheel..
There is at least one other scenario under which a wheel should work and which doesn't involve making things fall of the wheel and be independent.
Please gentlemen, don't bother asking how I can sit in an armchair and spout this "theory". I'm working on it as much as I can and the "ideas" are based on observation of models.
ps : somebody spouted that centrifugal is a pseudo force. Whoever first first said that is a dolt. A force is a force, whatever it results from, and as such, can do work, or increase another force.
If you think you have an overunity device, think again, there is no such thing. You might just possibly have an unexpectedly efficient device. In which case you will be abducted by MIB and threatened by aliens.
Hi Nic,
You do seem to understand the concept. And it does take time to understand how it can be applied.
I have started laying out a wheel. It will be a little less that 32 inches in diameter. Even if it does not work, I will not consider that proof of anything.
It will show one way that a force independent of a wheel can effect it.
Since most people are not interested enough in the engineering to consider the science behind it, it will demonstarte about all of Bessler's clues.
Unfortunately, only the owner of overunity.com is interested in seeing it.
Maybe it is as a person told me once in here, leave math and science out of discussions and people will my posting more favorable.
But myself, I have to believe that Bessler was familiar with both. Otherwise why didn't he accept failure when his design didn't work the first few times he built it ?
You do seem to understand the concept. And it does take time to understand how it can be applied.
I have started laying out a wheel. It will be a little less that 32 inches in diameter. Even if it does not work, I will not consider that proof of anything.
It will show one way that a force independent of a wheel can effect it.
Since most people are not interested enough in the engineering to consider the science behind it, it will demonstarte about all of Bessler's clues.
Unfortunately, only the owner of overunity.com is interested in seeing it.
Maybe it is as a person told me once in here, leave math and science out of discussions and people will my posting more favorable.
But myself, I have to believe that Bessler was familiar with both. Otherwise why didn't he accept failure when his design didn't work the first few times he built it ?
When posting math equasions, a common frame of refference (via the deisgn) is needed to understand where the poster is comming from. Just being blasted with only math equasions without a common frame of reference becomes meaningless to most if not all. Thus only confusion is what comes from it. Or is that the posters intent, to feel smarter for they are the only one knowing what they are talking about for their own ego.
re: Bessler's 2 Wheels
Alan,
Since nobody is willing to ask a question, I will need to assume they understand the reference.
This is why in overunity.com, I always pursued a discussion. Some peole found simpler ways.
Yet in a discussion, idea's can be understood from more than one perspective.
An example is the idea posted. While it might not work with 2 opposing units, it could demonstrate the principle.
As such, if the principle proves valid, it would possibly lead to an invention.
As such, you know my position on that subject, all patent rights go to charity if I am involved in it.
This has nothing to do with being nice, but to avoid legal fights over money. And The International Red Cross is a good enough charity.
as it is, I am building a model of what I believe to be Bessler's wheel. It's all I can afford at the moment.
If Ralph is willing to be involved in this, such as building the 2 units and see if they can be more efficient without using a potential associated with the wheel, I will describe how this can happen.
So if people wish for something to talk about, everyone can tell Ralph, now is our chance to shut him up. Or they might have something better to say.
And yes, it would need to be Ralph building it. Think of it as trying to keep peace in the family.
Since nobody is willing to ask a question, I will need to assume they understand the reference.
This is why in overunity.com, I always pursued a discussion. Some peole found simpler ways.
Yet in a discussion, idea's can be understood from more than one perspective.
An example is the idea posted. While it might not work with 2 opposing units, it could demonstrate the principle.
As such, if the principle proves valid, it would possibly lead to an invention.
As such, you know my position on that subject, all patent rights go to charity if I am involved in it.
This has nothing to do with being nice, but to avoid legal fights over money. And The International Red Cross is a good enough charity.
as it is, I am building a model of what I believe to be Bessler's wheel. It's all I can afford at the moment.
If Ralph is willing to be involved in this, such as building the 2 units and see if they can be more efficient without using a potential associated with the wheel, I will describe how this can happen.
So if people wish for something to talk about, everyone can tell Ralph, now is our chance to shut him up. Or they might have something better to say.
And yes, it would need to be Ralph building it. Think of it as trying to keep peace in the family.