Can you imagine...?

[raj]

Can you imagine this and answer the following question?:

Two fully balanced wheels, one small and one large, rotating under the influence of gravity, on one and same axle, with one wheel's centre of gravity always staying off one and same side of the axle.

Do you, bright mambers of this forum, think this is possible?

Raj

[bluesgtr44]

As you have described with no further details....in and of itself....no, not without an explanation of the force that would cause the offset of weight to one side of one of those wheels.


Steve

[triplock]

Can you imagine this and answer the following question?:

NO

[AB Hammer]

We can imagine allot of things. That is why we have so many different wheels. Please clarify what you are saying, so we may be able to answer your question.


Alan

[raj]

Let us do an imagining exercise together.

Let us imagine our small wheel, fully balanced ], on its axle, like in the drawings below.
First drawing is a front view of wheel.
Second drawing is a lateral view of wheel.

Do you think that it can be made fully balanced?

[raj]

That was simple to imagine a small wheel on an axle, as on the drawing above.

Now let us imagine a second larger wheel on one and the same axle, i.e the axle of the first smaller wheel in drawing above.

Can you imagine this?

[arjay30]

I can imagine
Two fully balanced wheels, one small and one large, on one and same axle

but not rotating under the influence of gravity, or with one wheel's centre of gravity always staying off one and same side of the axle.

[raj]

Thanks a lot Arjay!
I marvel at your expert drawing. I wish I could do that.
That is an obvious way.
Can you imaging of some other way of putting the two wheels on the same axle.
About gravity influence etc, we will cross the bridge when we come to it.

Arjay, I think I shall need your help in presenting our imagination as we go along, with your expert drawing skill.

Raj

[jim_mich]

Arjay, may I ask what software you used to make your drawing?

[raj]

Imagine the second larger wheel like in the drawings below ( like a bicycle tyre)


Imagine this larger wheel on one and the same axle as the smaller wheel.


Can you imagine this?

[path_finder]

Dear Raj,
Without to offend you, this is difficult to understand your idea.
In any case the coincidence of two axis can NOT be sufficient for getting any primemover.

Some not only imagined it, but also built it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXwAyOBhmyY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8mRstDeZCM

[nicbordeaux]

Arjay, may I ask what software you used to make your drawing?

Jim, the best drawing software around is called a wife who is an artist. However, this software has quite a few glitches, like unpredictable behavior.

[Tarsier79]

OK Raj. Just spit out the whole story. I never liked playing eye-spy. I spy something starting with two wheels on one axle...

[triplock]

Particularly liked the two animations path_finder posted above, simply from imaginative design point of view.

Built something similar 6 months ago. Always the same problem of a back feed force being equal to the levered forces.

Nice to look at though.

Chris

[arjay30]

jim i used google sketchup 7 to draw it. then print screen ,
cut and paste to ms paint to get the image.

http://sketchup.google.com/training/vid ... o_gsu.html