mathematics

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mathematics alone make us feel the limits of our intelligence

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bessler said:i would success in my project!.the right path is there-the thing is some where in natures' law.

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the most difficult is the building(physical implementation of the idea)

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f your machine design does not have an internal structure with free movement there ,it will never work.

[triplock]

Have you been on the special herbal cigarettes again Sadiq ? ;-)

Chris

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self turning wheel requires some force other than gravity in order to work,this fact has been know since before bessler's time.

[AB Hammer]

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self turning wheel requires some force other than gravity in order to work,this fact has been know since before bessler's time.

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I believe Bessler would say differently. ;-)

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hi chirs
how do you know that i m smoking cigar.that is true i m smoking natural cigar.

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hi AB Hammer
i dont thing so,any how if not bessler said,now this is my statement.thanks

[AB Hammer]

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Well lets look at it for a moment. What force or action can happen without something? Your device it there and only gravity is available. If you have wind for your device it will fall under a wind device. If you have water, it is under a water device. If you have steam or heat, who is tending the fire or is it from the volcano? If you have the sun, you have solar. All that is left is gravity or magic. So you ask yourself. Which one can you prove? What else do you have? If not gravity.

A gravity alone powered wheel will be proved. That does not prove perpetual motion yet. ;-))

Alan

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hi alan
no need to go for long discussion, let put in this way,say your weight 75kg & also my weight 75kg .if we stand on the gable end of seesaw it will balance,may be your friend give you helium ballon (same size of foot ball),what will happen if you still standing at the same seesaw?.thanks

[Tarsier79]

It means he could also hold a stubby, and still balance.

[sadiq attamish]

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if hold stubby ,i thing the seesaw will un balanced.if up or down thats what we need to cheat the gravity to make something great.thanks

[AB Hammer]

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weight and leverage do effect at the axle/fulcrum of a device. This is a given of leverage and weight value. If a hundred lb steel ball and a one lb steel ball fall from the same height. The will hit at the same time, but the impact of the hundred lb steel ball will leave a bigger impression due to it mas and weight. These are basic understandings. But lift 4lbs 4 feet with 1lb dropping 1 foot. Now you have a shocked world of science. LOL

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hi AB hammer
not simply like that,there is CF force,inertia,torque,natural force to make tow-graviton(extra energy) as well as the very important is the gravity.thanks