Help needed to post long videos.

[Trevor Lyn Whatford]

Hi all,

Does anybody here no where I can post videos that are to long for you tube? As I have some to show but no were to show them.

Thanks members, Regards Trevor

[AB Hammer]

Videos are limited here if I am not mistaken. You could e-mail them to people as well if they send you their email.
Alan

[getterdone]

I've watched documentries on youtube that where more than two hours long, I don't think that there are any time limits

[Trevor Lyn Whatford]

Hi Alan, Getterdone,

Alan, I do not have them on my computer yet, but if I can not find a place to post them then I will take up your good advice, you may have built most of them already : ). have you see the wart on my chin.

Getterdone, I set my you tube account up 2 years ago but now you mention it I think there was some mention of a teaching account I will look into it.

Thanks Getterdone, Alan,

With thanks Trevor

Edit spell check.

[rlortie]

YouTube and cookies
Each time a new user visits YouTube, a unique permanent tracking cookie is issued by the Web site to the user's browser, which it stores. Whenever the user later revisits YouTube, that cookie is transmitted to the video-sharing site, allowing it to identify users and monitor their video viewing habits.

YouTube is also able to set and access a user's tracking cookie when she visits a third-party Web page that has embedded a video stored on the YouTube site (such as a blog or other Web site), even if the user never clicks the play button.

The moment that the flash file containing the video player is downloaded from YouTube's servers and displayed in the user's browser as part of another Web page, the cookie is transmitted to YouTube's servers. Considering how widespread the practice of embedding YouTube videos has become, this gives Google an amazing amount of data on the Web-browsing activities of hundreds of millions of Internet users--many of whom may not realize that such tracking data is being collected.

The White House policy is not being followed
The YouTube-related text in the new White House privacy policy implies that not all users will be tracked by YouTube. The policy notes that:

"If you would like to view a video without the use of persistent cookies, a link to download the video file is typically provided just below the video."

As of Thursday morning, this statement is false.

In multiple tests by this blogger with both Internet Explorer and Firefox, merely visiting pages on the White House blog causes YouTube to set a long-term tracking cookie in the browser--even if the user does not press the play button to start the video. After eight months, this cookie will be automatically deleted by the user's browser--unless, of course, the user visits another Web page somewhere else on the Internet containing a YouTube-embedded video, in which case, the eight-month cookie clock is reset. Given how widespread YouTube video embeds have become, this cookie essentially lasts forever.

While it is obvious that I am rather critical of this entire affair, I am willing to give the Obama Web team the benefit of the doubt in one area: the fact that their current Web infrastructure does not deliver on the promises made by their privacy policy.

The Obama White House Web site is only two days old, and so it is certainly possible that the team simply hasn't gotten around to deploying a more privacy-preserving system for YouTube video embeds. Protecting users who do not click "play" from automatically receiving a cookie is certainly possible; the Electronic Frontier Foundation in 2008 released a wrapper script for YouTube videos that provided this very feature. Let us hope that the Obama team deploys such a technology in due course.

Can YouTube be justified as a "compelling need"?
For the past 10 years, federal agencies have been prohibited from using tracking cookies on their Web sites, except in a few special cases. The Office of Management and Budget rule M-03-22 states that:

"Agencies are prohibited from using persistent cookies or any other means (e.g., web beacons) to track visitors' activity on the Internet except .... [when there is] a compelling need."

The question we must now focus on is this: Is the need for Obama to use embedded videos hosted by YouTube (and not, say, another company's video-streaming platform that does not force cookies upon its users) a use that can be reasonably described as compelling?

Presumably, this has been justified on the basis that YouTube forces cookies on the visitors of any Web site that embeds one of its videos. However, while Joe or Jane blogger has no bargaining power with YouTube/Google, the federal government certainly does.

In just the past couple weeks, YouTube has launched dedicated pages for both the House and Senate to show off their own videos, and the site also recently started allowing users to directly download copies of some videos. This latter feature has not yet been widely deployed across the site, and is seems to be limited to videos posted by Obama's team.

Given the famously close connections between Obama and Google, you'd think his tech team could negotiate for a cookie-less way to embed videos. At a technical level, this would be an easy enough change, even if it would deny Google the ability to collect even more information on millions of Americans.

[rlortie]

I've watched documentries on youtube that where more than two hours long, I don't think that there are any time limits

Videos uploaded to YouTube by standard account holders are limited to ten minutes in length and a file size of 2 GB.[71][72] When YouTube was launched in 2005 it was possible to upload longer videos, but a ten minute limit was introduced in March 2006 after YouTube found that the majority of videos exceeding this length were unauthorized uploads of television shows and films.[73][74] Partner accounts are permitted to upload videos longer than ten minutes, subject to acceptance by YouTube.[75]

[Trevor Lyn Whatford]

Hi Ralph,

They probable got Google to do there dirty work for them:)

Regards Trevor.

Edit, to see if BP is clicking on oil spill sites and pressing the help button.

[rlortie]

Trevor,

YOUtube is Google; solely owned and operated.

Raph

[Trevor Lyn Whatford]

Hi Ralph,

I did not see your second post as I was post to you at the time.

Thank for that I will look into it and give it a go.

you may of missed my Edit on my last post.

Regards Trevor

[rlortie]

Trevor,

If your are looking for movie upload source that allows more than ten minutes check out the list at;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison ... o_services

Scroll down to;Streaming Video Technical Information

[path_finder]

Dear Trevor Lyn Whatford,
Another way to overpass the size limitation for the video uploads is: using a video player to stop at each significant image and make a screencopy as .gif file, then to built a short animation with an half second between the shots. There is an example here (the original video was NOT from me):
http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewt ... 1892#71892
For sure it is not the same quality than for a full video, but it allows a good enough understanding if the images are well selected.
In addition there is a major advantage: we are here at home, and not dependent from any external source.

[Trevor Lyn Whatford]

Hi,

I have just loaded up Video lab 10, so hopefully I will get some videos on youtube when I get the hang of it.

I think it would be best to post them where ever one can see them as there would be a larger pool of minds.

Regards Trevor