Powering the world

[EARLS11]

Wind power is preferred by scores of environmentalists for its environment-friendly qualities. It is a cheap and clean source of renewable energy. A study on the wind energy has found that the potential of wind power on land and near-shore to be 72 terrawatts (TW), or over five times the world's current energy use in all forms (15 TW from all sources in 2005), which is indicative of the huge amount of Wind Power Investment possibilities.

Even though there is enough wind in the atmosphere to source the wind energy requirements of the whole world, only 1% of the wind energy is being utilized by the world. But its usage is slowly and steadily increasing. The output of the world generators is calculated to be around 94.1 gigawatts (GW) in 2007. Usage of wind energy as an alternative source is rising rapidly, increasing more than fivefold globally between 2000 and 2007. By 2010, the World Wind Energy Association expects 160GW of capacity to be installed worldwide, up from 73.9 GW at the end of 2006, implying an anticipated net growth rate of more than 21% per year.

As the fastest-growing energy source in the world, abundant, safe, renewable wind power seems like a very promising investment opportunity.

[greendoor]

The potential of wind power high above land is far greater. Build a computer controlled windmill about the size of a jumbo jet, and tether it in the jet stream on two cables that double as conductors, and you have megaWatts of continuous free energy. Google are already investing in this - it's going to happen.

But the average peasant would still have to sell his soul to The Man to stay warm and fed. This just makes the rich richer, etc.

The advantage of small gravity powered genny's (if this is possible) is that the peasants can own their own power plant.

[Mark]

I don't know about the rest of you, but irregardless of how 'informative' it may be, I consider EARLS11's post to be nothing more than SPAM.

[rlortie]

Mark,

I agree, I started a lengthy counter post regarding the cost effectiveness of a wind generator paying for itself when there is no wind.

If not for charging more for energy produced and government incentives I do not believe our skylines would be cluttered with the damn things!

Is not hydro-power renewable? Just mention it to the wind pushers and they clam up in a hurry. If your scheme contains the words; Green Earth technology, Environmental friendly, Renewable Energy' Its likely some one is looking for grants, private funding, or accelerated depreciation which a lot of states are offering.

On another note; Cannot put my finger on it, but there is something about this EARLS11's profile that causes apprehension, I feel like he has been here before and more than one time. Not accusing anyone of anything just voicing my feelings.

Ralph

[Grimer]

It's certainly not appropriate for a first post to BesslerWheel.com. That's for sure.

And having clicked on the link I have to agree with Mark that it is indeed SPAM.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8huXkSaL7o

(sorry - couldn't resist it. )

[Ian G]

PM could power the world
It can be kept out of sight i.e. underground
also it can produce many types of work i.e. electricity, heat, and motion of all kinds.


Where can you go wrong?

[Ealadha]

I don't know about the rest of you, but irregardless of how 'informative' it may be, I consider EARLS11's post to be nothing more than SPAM.

Seems to me that the majority of posts on this forum are from vested interests , i think a separate forum is needed for bessler wheel enthusiasts.

[jim_mich]

EARLS11's posting should have been in Off Topic Forum since it does not concern Bessler's wheel.

And I agree, it is spam, though not the totally offensive type.

[Trevor Lyn Whatford]

Ealadha,

There seem to me that gravity is in more abundance than wind, but does not get any R&D funding as science see it as nothing.

Wind power has to be backed up by different power plant, thus is a false economy.

If the Hydrogen fuel cell car takes off then you could use them to make the stored hydrogen, a gravity generator would be better though.

Regards Trevor

[erick]

The potential of wind power high above land is far greater. Build a computer controlled windmill about the size of a jumbo jet, and tether it in the jet stream on two cables that double as conductors, and you have megaWatts of continuous free energy. Google are already investing in this - it's going to happen.

But the average peasant would still have to sell his soul to The Man to stay warm and fed. This just makes the rich richer, etc.

The advantage of small gravity powered genny's (if this is possible) is that the peasants can own their own power plant.

What should be invested in is building a space elevator that is capable of supporting an electrical cable from a large geo-synchronous solar collector down to Earth's surface.

E

[Grimer]

Ealadha,

There seem to me that gravity is in more abundance than wind, but does not get any R&D funding as science see it as nothing.

Wind power has to be backed up by different power plant, thus is a false economy.

If the Hydrogen fuel cell car takes off then you could use them to make the stored hydrogen, a gravity generator would be better though.

Regards Trevor

Once one of us comes up with a point of principle demonstration there will be plenty of R&D funding.

So keep trucking.

[Trevor Lyn Whatford]

Hi Grimer,

You do not believe that the governments should run a think tank to run through the options and invite people like us to give input, being some where you could take your ideas to and if there good enough have them built.

If a new type of energy is not found soon then where all going Nuclear.

Regards Trevor

Edit If you had a good principle who would believe you without seeing it first hand.
Edit again, spelling

[Grimer]

Hi Grimer,

You do not believe that the governments should run a think tank to run through the options and invite people like us to give input, being somewhere you could take your ideas to and if they're good enough have them built.

If a new type of energy is not found soon then we're all going Nuclear. ...

I recently bought a Yale combination lock for the garden shed.



Unfortunately it is one of those locks where you can easily change the combination and my son-in-law did this accidentally.

There are 10,000 combinations 0000 to 9999,

The obvious thing to do is chuck it away and buy a new lock - but I saw it as a challenge and decided to try every combination if necessary. People spend time on other challenges such as crosswords, puzzles, etc. This was to be my crossword with a £7 prize at the end if I solved it.

I knew the original combination and I guessed that son-in-law had possibly not strayed too far from that. So I started with that combination and worked forward and back in alternate groups of 100 combinations. I worked on the lock in the spare moments one has during the day when one is waiting for something else to happen.

One problem was that it is quite easy to try a combination where you have not quite lined up the numbers correctly and thereby pass-over the correct combination. Therefore there was always the dispiriting prospect that I could try all 10,000 combinations and miss the correct one. Consequently it meant I had to spend at least 6 seconds on each combination to reduce the possibility of that miserable outcome.

I found the correct combination after 730 tries so it looks probable that my original strategy paid off.

Now as Jim Mich has recognised the Bessler solution has to lie with the interaction between Newtonian Gravity and Ersatz Gravity, or CF to Jim. There are not many possible combinations of these.

If one takes a systematic and scientific approach to the problem then eventually the correct combination will be found. Indeed, it probably has been found more than once and passed over because it has not been recognised.

One promising line of attack is to carefully analyse the way a Kiiking rider can pump energy into a swing to keep the swing in continuous rotation and then build a mechanical version which replicates the essential movement. This will require wireless remote control akin to that used for model aeroplanes - but I imagine there are plenty of those skills among the members.

You then consider how the action of the rider can be substituted by the action of gravity.

A single rider is akin to a single cylinder engine with a very unbalanced action. Smooth running is then achieved by having multiple riders arranged around the circumference.

Maybe Kiiking will eventually become an Olympic sport with teams of one, two, four and eight (cf rowing).

[broli]

Solar power will definitely be the way to go if nothing of free energy comes out. The biggest key to solar energy is a very simple component, namely the diode. I'm not talking about how current solar panels work. The most simple way to capture any electromagnetic wave is by using a quarter wavelength antenna.

To quote wikipedia:

Infrared radiation (IR radiation) is electromagnetic radiation with a wavelength between 0.7 and 300 micrometres, which equates to a frequency range between approximately 1 and 430 THz.[1]

Its wavelength is longer (and the frequency lower) than that of visible light, but the wavelength is shorter (and the frequency higher) than that of terahertz radiation microwaves. Bright sunlight provides an irradiance of just over 1 kilowatt per square meter at sea level. Of this energy, 527 watts is infrared radiation, 445 watts is visible light, and 32 watts is ultraviolet radiation.[2]

https://inlportal.inl.gov/portal/server ... =DA_101047

The problem is having a diode that can operate in the THz range so it can rectify the frequency of these IR waves. If that happens then say hello to ultra cheap, flexible, highly efficient solar panels that are printed like news paper. These can work day and night, can be used for the massive amount of waste heat that occurs everywhere and can power hand held electronics indefinitely.

Try to beat that.

[Trevor Lyn Whatford]

Hi Grimer,

I think you will find there are many combinations to the gravity wheel lock, I have shown a couple but no one pulled the lock, they just said that does not look right as it does not have my favorite number on it.

Regards Trevor