Big gravity wheel with video

[Grimer]

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When I see the Bernoulli spiral that Frank has posted - I immediately think of a weight on a tether getting would up in ever decreasing circles.

A weight winding round a cylindrical column will not give you a Bernoulli spiral.

[Grimer]

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If Pathfinder saw any merit in this as a concept, I have no doubt he could design an ingenious system to exploit this...

Yep. All one need to do is to show that the kinetic energy of translation and rotation of a ball which shoots out horizontally at the bottom of the vortex spiral is greater than the kinetic energy of a ball which is dropped the same distance vertically. One can calculate the latter.

For a rigid track no energy (force x distance) is lost to the track since it won't deflect by definition.

[W32]

Hello World,
Like you I’m a dreamer of a better future.
Obviously through free energy, things would be a lot different.
No more wars for gasoline and petrol. No more polluting planet earth.
But the system maintaining the profit out of controlled energy is way more organized than one could ever possibly imagine. Just take a minute and think of all the interests that would be affected if people had free energy.
Now think that the source of free energy is Gravity. As Mr. tutanka says about Mr. chalkalis’s invention.
In a world that science is improving and old facts are proven wrong or obsolete every day, we are still so absolute about some things.
Newton (1643 – 1727) described universal gravitation and the three laws of motion, which dominated the scientific view of the physical universe for the next three centuries… (Wikipedia)
For your consideration I will mention that The first electric bulb light was made in 1800 by Humphry Davy. In my humble opinion he would have probably been accused of using witchcraft in 17th century.
A year ago I found out about Mr. F.M.chalkalis Energy Multiplier and since then I’m following its course.
Today, with the help of many people we actually have the scientific documentation that proves Mr. Chalkalis claims of Over-Unity.
Proofs, that should make us reconsider or knowledge on physics we have been taught.
Yet I see none saying a word about it.
So I decided that the least I can do is to inform anyone I can. Hopping that somehow people, will see and realize that free energy exists and is free for everyone on our planet.
This is the update on Mr. F.M.Chalkalis’s Energy Multiplier from June 25, 2011.
w32

[preoccupied]

I've had it up to here - seeing partially explained undocumented claims of over unity success by amateurs. And then I see that information is being hidden about an easier to explain mechanism with better capabilities. They're pulling my legs!

[murilo]

So the change in kinetic energy from zero to 1 is a lot less
than the change from 1 to 2.

So here is the BIG question.

Is there, perhaps, some advantage in artificially accelerating
a weight BEFORE letting it fall freely?

The change in energy from one second to two seconds is four time that of the change in energy from zero to one second. The weight also drops four times as far. Thus the change in kinetic energy of a falling weight increases the same amount during equal distances of fall. There is no extra gain of energy from gravity by falling faster.

Jim, hello!
Pls be kind to tell me if you still keep this as a truth in your mind!
Thanx!
Best!
Murilo

[jim_mich]

tell me if you still keep this as a truth in your mind!

It will always be true. I cannot change nature or her laws.

[ruggerodk]

Maybe we can create a situation where the force of gravity acting on a falling weight is used - via a lever - to provide the necessary force to accelerate the faster-ascending weight .... weights acting in pairs as Bessler suggests ...

Not a bad idea ;-D

How do we proceed ?

Ruggero ;-)

[murilo]

tell me if you still keep this as a truth in your mind!

It will always be true. I cannot change nature or her laws.

We know well how much you reject my main project, ok?

All I have to say is that now I'm very glad that do reject it!

Then I haven't to deal with 'bad companions' and bad references... 8\

If needed I can send examples for this above said.

Best and take care!
Muliro

[W32]

I've had it up to here - seeing partially explained undocumented claims of over unity success by amateurs. And then I see that information is being hidden about an easier to explain mechanism with better capabilities. They're pulling my legs!

Hello World,
Reading Mr. Preoccupied‘s post and seeing that nobody talks about it I decided to write again.
Mr. Preoccupied, since you’ve “had it up to here� with the Amateurs…I’ll take it that you are some kind of a Professional.
It is known to everyone that many of the great innovations that changed the world have been made by Amateurs and I am sure you know about it.
I just don’t get it Mr. Preoccupied, what more explanations and documentations you are asking for.
Why don’t you, as a Professional, write to the Brown University of Physics at Professor Robert Pelcovits or to the Kuban University of Russia at Professor Kanarev, who had provided, with examples and mathematical explanations, the documentation of overunity success on Mr. F.M.Chalkalis innovation, instead of having your “legs pulled� in the forum.
It is obvious to me that your comments may have some other purposes.
Regarding Mr. Jim Mich’s “I cannot change nature or her laws.� (Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 10:39 am)
Well Mr. Mich, you are so right, nobody can change the nature or her laws. Neither Galileo did when he said that “Earth moves.�
Mr. Fotios M. Chalkalis ,as he wrote, is utilizing some of nature’s laws. Could you please explain to me where did you find that he is “changing� the nature’s laws?
With all due respect
W32

[jim_mich]

W32, you failed to correctly follow the conversation.

Bill_Mothershead made a comment. I replied to Bill's comment saying, "There is no extra gain of energy from gravity by falling faster."

Then Murilo asked, "Pls be kind to tell me if you still keep this as a truth in your mind!"

And I answered, "It will always be true. I cannot change nature or her laws."

Then you ask, "Mr. Fotios M. Chalkalis ,as he wrote, is utilizing some of nature’s laws. Could you please explain to me where did you find that he is “changing� the nature’s laws?"

As you can see, when I spoke about not changing natures laws, I was not talking about Mr. Chalkalis. I was answering Murilo's question as to if I "still keep this as a truth" that no extra gain can come about by rising and falling weights. I answered that it will always be true. It is a law of nature. I cannot change nature or her laws.

[ruggerodk]

--- by falling faster ---

But paraphrasing Bessler: As long as you keep the weights out of CoG...it'll work