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Reticon wrote:cheers, and thank you. Will review as time permits. I will remind everyone that NO ONE has demonstrated a working device and we are therefore all pretty much just as wrong. Only a few are brave enough to demonstrate. We're all wrong until the device can be demonstrated.
Or until a different device using the same energy source (Ersatz Gravity) demonstrates the generation of energy from the EG field.

In my opinion not only will this be easier to do but it has already been done at least three times. Once by Bruce's Uncle, once by a member of the HereticalBuilders forum and many time by that Austrian forester, Viktor Schauberger the Water Wizard.
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John, I want to answer here because I cannot post a new comment to your blog, for whatever reason.
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Make the lever assembly as shown on the web site - that will answer your doubts more than anything I can say. It works. The photos at the end of the page are real and show the facts.
I did a computer simulation of your assembly and the result is disappointing - as I expected. The question now is, why does your assemly work? I believe to already have the answer. It is the mass of the shifter lever. Then it is no wonder why it works because the whole shifter arm will be obviously heavier than the primary weight. For your wheel this means, the shifter lever itself has enough mass to act as a good weight and so it will affect the counter-torque as well as a light weight with more distance to the central axis would do.

How is the mass of the black weights relatively to the mass of the lever arms?
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My simulation didn't work too..

I believe it's the ratio of the arms, mass and possibly because there are other mechanisms involved ..
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Thanks for coming out with this version of your wheel idea. From what you've said about it, I take it, some of it is recently derived.

Oh well, I too went to the copying of human pumping at the end of a swinging pendulum. Whatever goes into moving the weights, slows it down, and whatever comes out of having the weights move back, also slows it down.

I think you need not fret much about anyone improving your design to the point that it actually works, so breathe a sigh of relief.

Again, stated differently, the air is fresher now on Besslerwheel.com and thanks for that.

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Thank you Axel!

I'm going to try and put up a video of the mechanism working. The levers are too light to affect the movement and they are very light compared to the lever arms, johnny.

I don't know why the simulation doesn't work but it does demonstrate why I have had so much difficulty making a working mechanism. I should add that the mechanisms does work but it all happens too slowly.

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A wm2d basic setup to show how levers move. Crude and just a starting point to help visualise some movement.
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Exactly where does Bessler say 5 mech. were used?

For the sake of discussion, suppose the drawings of Bessler's wheels held NO clues? Suppose the portraits held NO clues?

Your design does move the large weight a " little closer to the axle ".
I think this will be your bitter experience.

What was the purpose of the holes and compartments in Bessler's wheel?

You pulled back the curtain and still more questions than answers.

I'm sorry John, but I am so unimpressed with this design and your warped clue interpetations.

When the real Bessler wheel is revealed, you will be able to go through all his clues and know what he was talking about.

I still like you John and am so thankful for all the research you have done. JMHO
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Maybe it doesn't happen quickly enough because springs are not employed....springs give a better 'waggle'
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John, are you saying your wheel is turning perpetually, albeit slowly?
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trip, I might have oversampled a bit of last john comment :

>> I should add that the mechanisms does work but it all happens too slowly.
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No LIB, all I'm saying is the mechanism lifts the primary weight when the shifter weight falls. But it starts late and is too slow to provide the quick lift required. On my prototype it finished lifting the primary weight after the nine o'clock point.

The use of springs is a possibility Jon, but I doubt I could fit them correctly.

Bessler doesn't say five mechs were used, the idea is based on Bessler's predilection for putting obscure references to 5.5 everywhere. I'm damned with faint praise, justsomeone.

Thanks for that attempt Damian, I must point out that the shifter lever has to begin its fall slightly on the falling side of the centre of rotation and then continue in that direction. But its good to see the first go at simulating what I've been workng on and I'm grateful.
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LIB, I think all John is saying is the mech. shifts.

I see he is using two equal weights. What happened to the 1 lb. falling one quarter lifting 4 lbs four quarters high?

As one weight ( on the same side of the wheel ) is shifted closer to the axle another one at the same time is shifted further from the axle. A Wagner wheel with equal impetus?
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