yes or no

[nneba]

Are the internal mechanisms symetrical?

I am leaning twards no

[path_finder]

Dear nneba,
Your question can be relevant only for the bi-directional wheels (the last ones of Bessler). An answer could be the rotation speed of 26 turns by minute, about the half of the speed of the uni-directional wheels (the first ones). Few members here in this forum believe that the initial mechanism has been doubled later. No evidence, only a valid suggestion.

[greendoor]

I'm leaning towards yes. The first wheels could be started in either direction - which implies symmetry. I suspect the bi-directional wheels were just two back to back - the redundant wheel simply acting as a balanced flywheel (which also implies symmetry).

The main reason I believe it was symmetrical is because Bessler stated he used pairs of weights, and that one beam (1 pair) by itself had very little torque, but we think he used 4 beams to multiply the effect. Any arrangement of 4 beams, which I presume to be balanced, is inherently symmetrical - even if they themselves aren't symmetrical.

However - I believe the wheel was dynamic, and the weights "gained force from their swinging" or words to that effect. So if the wheel was balanced when at rest, it was most likely out-of-balance when running, which suggests asymmetry while it is running.

No matter what the mechanism was - there has to be a basic operating principle that obeys the actual laws of nature (not necessarily the laws that we have assumed since Newton). The only glimmer of hope that I see lies in momentum maths of Force x Time where we manipulate Time to give an imbalance between the momentum obtained during fall compared to the momentum required for rise. Gravesend, who witnessed the wheel, came to exactly this conclusion. In his day, there was contraversy about whether quantity of motion was MV or MV^2 (which became the 0.5MV^2 of modern Energy maths). Gravesend could see that IF MV was conserved, there is a way to make gravity power a wheel. But if Energy is conserved, there isn't any way possible.

Pequaide has drawn to our attention some possible ways to make Energy in the lab - and although we haven't yet devised an experiment that closes the loop yet, I feel it is the basic secret behind Bessler's wheel - if we can just devise the mechanism.

So on that basis, I believe the weights utilised a slow fall, fast rise. Some recent Remote Viewing sessions indicated that slow "natural" fall & fast "supernatural" rise was involved. Seems a bit weird, but makes sense to me. I expected the weights in the Bessler wheel were somehow flicked upwards very fast - probably with tethers of some sort. A means of momentum transfer rather than energy transfer gives hope in the momentum/impulse maths model for this possibility.

So I expect the wheel, when running, was not symmetrical about the horizontal axis. But could well have been symmetrical about the vertical axis.

FWIW.

[Ealadha]

Yes , i think the mechanisms were symmetrical .

[Trevor Lyn Whatford]

Hi all,

I go for yes!

Edit, life was cruel to Bessler, mostly his own doing, but I believe geometry was kind to him.

Regards Trevor

[Ian G]

YES they are symetrical