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I recently have read a lot about alchemy, thanks to Bessler
It is a very interesting subject, if there are other wanna be alchemists here let me know:)

The thing i wanted to ask this time was, why did Bessler include a lock on his drawings of the wheels?
Could this be a clue? Its simple but have anyone any thoughts on this?

In my simple mind there are only two ways of driving a wheel, either have a slope that it can run down or a some kind of a motor to drive it:)

If you use the second one you will need more force on one side then the other,and since gravity works on both sides equally this is not a good option.


So the answer must be in creating a internal eternal slope so the wheel can perpetually roll downhill !:)

But how does the wheel know which way is down and which is up.....
I dont even understand that:(
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Gday

I believe the lock has been discussed before, I believe the general thought was that it was to stop rotation to conserve wearing parts. But untill someone comes up with a working wheel, anything that is or isn't a clue is only speculation. So I believe it is important to decide for yourself which clues are important, and which ones aren't.

When you look into the beliefs and knowledge of the time, it is surprising to see how advanced they actually were. As for the references and clues to alchemy, Rosicrucians=>Masonic sacred geometry etc, there is a lot of information available, but you will find the study of it will probably be a lonely journey... from what I have seen, most see the word alchemy and press the next button, or the little x in the top right hand corner (I am not one of those). I wouldn't have even known about these branches of study had it not been for the excellent insights and warped and wonderful perspective of another Bessler-wheel fanatic.

There are in my opinion still things that modern science can't explain, or put into their neat little pigeonholes, and there are discoveries that haven't been made, or are yet to be rediscovered.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z6UJbwxBZI&NR=1

When looking into geometry and overbalance mechanisms, we always seem to trade height for width (as much as I don't like to use that term). In simple leverage, the vertical distance of the weight on each side is irrelevant, as the horizontal plays the most important role... But in rotation, it isn't... Power/pressure on each side of the wheel is caused by the vertical movement/potential-speed of the weights, so in actual fact, horizontal distance is what we should consider irrelevant. A weight can be closer to the axle and have more driving force than a weight further away, providing it is moving vertically at a greater rate than the more distant weight...

It is a possibility that the wheel, especially as Bessler calls it a fake wheel (and who knows exactly in what context he is talking), that the wheel is a hybrid of some alchemic/chemical reaction and simple overbalance. I believe Bessler discovered the principle through the knowledge he gained, not from only trial and error experiments and failed OB wheels. In this regard, we may benefit from the study of other equally brilliant people that Bessler may have known about.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornelius_Drebbel


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Soo my tip is ...it could give a sign that wheel even open to see is really hard to spot a prime mover without a rotation. Or that prime mover is "the MOtion" and not that much of new construction. So by the lock he coud be more safe that nobody will steal his secret.

Just my 2 cents

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