Georg's way to the one directional wheel

[Stewart]

Hi Trev

I think Georg is referring to the drawings of the Merseburg wheel:

http://www.besslerwheel.com/images/Merseburg_wheel.jpg

http://www.besslerwheel.com/images/Bi-DirectionalWheel.jpg

Around the circumference of the wheel are what looks like small dowels/pegs. However, these aren't shown on the Kassel wheel drawings.

All the best
Stewart

[Jan Rutkowski]

Mr George ! Hallo .
For many yaers I new you know the secret . Look at my idea for 7 years on internet isn't that what you are saing about moving weihgt by rolling - the best is that thay roll them self up hill . look at astrosa.com
Best regards Jan Rutkowski .

[Jonathan]

The ripples make it still too complex for a formula. I could find it, but since I'm not sure what form it would take, it'd take me a long time. I'd be motived if there was a video!

[Gravmaster2000]

Georg Künstler....the master teaser.....yes or no? :*)
Seriously, the bumpyness probably helps 'unsettle' the system,
like the Finsruud device....maybe an average could be taken....
Meanwhile, my idea dies in flames...

[Gravmaster2000]

Jan, seeing your site and designs posted there, they look promising-I may try something similar. It does occur to me that the balls being lifted can be inside the wheel if a spiral design is used to 'walk' the weights up-in other words, instead of a sudden lift when the power ball hits, or a slow lift with the locking pin latching at the last moment, the wheel itself lifts each ball with a continous spiral, at the proper angle of 3:1, 4:1 etc. The ONLY problem I see with the drawings on the site (and maybe I am reading this wrong) is this statment:

We can easy estimate that left side with opposed to right side where there is only 3 kg. And that is 1 kg. is heavier as becausebalance to be restored right side must have 4 x 1kg.weights, but

"1 kg. is about 4 times further from the centre ."

(But the total force there is much less, since it is NOT further out but for a small moment, while the anti-force of the lift balls is more constant.
Possibly a problem?)

For seeing this never happens we have achieved the phenomenon known as perpetual motion."

Man, I want to see that myself!!

[Georg Künstler]

Hi Jan,
any reason why you havn't demostrated your wheel in public demonstation under load ? You are working longer with this stuff, what was your experiance with PUBLIC.

You have all working elements in your wheel, swinging, regauching, etc.

I know, that I am not alone knowing the secret, but seems to me that no one like to do the frontrunning. That must have a reason.

the future has begun

Georg

[etjoe]

I have to agree with you Georg, people who make drawings cannot lay claim to an actual built machine especially if those drawings do not contain specifications. It is the builder who has to devise how much weight, the size and shape of the weights, how big of a wheel, how much leverage, what kind of bearings, etc. Everyone can draw a plane but I doubt and anyone in this forum can build one to fly from one city to another carrying 1 passenger. Proof of ownership is the one who has the actual working machine !

-e

[jim_mich]

I have to agree with you Georg, people who make drawings cannot lay claim to an actual built machine especially if those drawings do not contain specifications. It is the builder who has to devise how much weight, the size and shape of the weights, how big of a wheel, how much leverage, what kind of bearings, etc. Everyone can draw a plane but I doubt and anyone in this forum can build one to fly from one city to another carrying 1 passenger. Proof of ownership is the one who has the actual working machine !

-e

Bravo! Bravo! (clap clap clap) Very good! Paper ideas are cheap to come by. A real live working machines with dimensional drawings would be worth more than gold.

Just my opinion.

[John Collins]

I know, that I am not alone knowing the secret, but seems to me that no one like to do the frontrunning. That must have a reason.

There you go again Georg, telling us you know the secret. Why do you not tell us, if you know it? Any of us would be delighted to do the "frontrunning".

[Clarkie]

Now now John, don't rise to it, see you Thusday.

Pete.

[etjoe]

<big deep bow> <grin> Thanks Jim.

-e

[Fletcher]

Hi Jan,

any reason why you havn't demostrated your wheel in public demonstation under load ?

You are working longer with this stuff, what was your experiance with PUBLIC.

Georg

*Jan talking to Darrell*

In my opinion you have working wheel and so do I . The difference between your and my wheel is excess of energy . My turn only 10 times a minute but to draw some energy it stop. It is a toy at this moment .

Some time ago I try talk to guys from Bessler board but they decided not to acknowledge what I'm saying . So I give up.

Jan Rutkowski

Hi Jan,

I first looked at your sight about 7 years ago & studied your drawing & explanations thoroughly.

I am very interested in your comments about having a working wheel (even if you consider it only a toy at the moment). I take it from your comments that it turns at 10 RPM but can't take any load (do any work) before stopping. It reminds me of "Uncles Toy" also on the internet.

Perhaps your working wheel could be improved. There are many here (especially now that the forum has grown since you were last here) who would like to help you develop it on from the prototype. Could you post photo's or a video of your wheel in operation, or provide any other suitable proof of your claims, so that we may get busy studying it, discussing it & improving it ?

Or do you need to become an investor first ?

I hope you get a much more deserved response from Bessler Board members this time round ! We, I'm sure, look forward to discussing your wheel in detail.

-fletcher

[Trev]

Georg,
Please, is this your complete working wheel now or is there more to it that is not shown yet?

[Georg Künstler]

it seems no one can provide a formula for teeter tauter in the wheel, so I make it easier. A pendulum with an alternating force.

the future has begun

Georg

[Jonathan]

So the outer wheel turns, which turns the wheel with the peg, and that repeatedly pulls the string, which, if the pendulum is moving a little to begin with, pumps the pendulum to keep it moving. But the potential and kinetic energy gained by the pendulum through this resonance came from the wheel, so that now it has less kinetic energy. The continued dissipation of energy from all the parts would lead to stasis. So how is this supposed to solve anything?
Also, this is harder to formulate than the teeter-totter in the wheel, because the differential equations are now intractable; while the other would be a pain, you could still get an explicit answer.