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Hi Ealadha, getterdone, and funwithgravity,

You have seen this technology before, only the improved version of it, its at the start of this thread, I have been away and have only just see this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZTbIAQb2zM the technology is all about making the wheel easy to rotate while creating good high torque on each of the generator shafts when fitted, it is real and the work done by gravity is far greater than the work done by the input drive motor. With out the pushover wheels though it would be only about one in and two out, but that was hand turn tests not driven, so do not right this off just yet as I am still working on it and will report my findings honestly to you all.

The big question is who owns the IP before I poor more money into it and develop it even more.

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Ealadha wrote:This is interesting .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZRfM0M4wcw
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Ealadha wrote:This is interesting .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZRfM0M4wcw

Sorry, but that vid is bogus. It is a repeat sequence of the same footage. Irrespective of whether the thing works or not, and I don't believe it does.
If you think you have an overunity device, think again, there is no such thing. You might just possibly have an unexpectedly efficient device. In which case you will be abducted by MIB and threatened by aliens.
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No its real, its a very real example of someone who doesn't understand the difference between amps and volts but has got himself quite the following. I saw these about 2 months ago and was intersted at first. It would seem he's swinging/spinning alternators on gear reduction devices at the ends of his arms. My guess would be that when spinning the device with 12 volts and the gens are putting out 14 plus but he can't figure out why it won't run when unplugged, (nor can most others). Like the campbell and quinn devices its always fun to see how many people jump on board and drag out these things for months.
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Ealadha wrote:
This is interesting .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZRfM0M4wcw



Sorry, but that vid is bogus. It is a repeat sequence of the same footage. Irrespective of whether the thing works or not, and I don't believe it does.
Had to go back about a month to find the original
page where they wrote about it. Not much there but
they have another video of same device (?).
http://pesn.com/2010/12/04/9501738_Brit ... kilowatts/
Don't much like the music.

Somebody went to a lot of trouble building this/these "things".

I originally thought nothing of the odd video effects, just because
it is a cheep camera, strobing, youtube FLV data conversion +
compression, etc. Is the other video bogus too?
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How to use the jack (corkscrew) of the MT138:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IjoJacvr2o
I cannot imagine why nobody though on this before, including myself? It is so simple!...
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Rev. Douglas James Cottrell PhD: The Bessler wheel & asking about new inventions:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kpr7jxjcRyQ
Nothing really new
I cannot imagine why nobody though on this before, including myself? It is so simple!...
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Just posted on PESWiki (has 5 videos + some very good still pictures):

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory: ... vity_Wheel

Once again, not exactly a "pure" gravity wheel.
Uses an electric motor to nudge weights.
(none of the models shown have a generator to
close the loop, ie. they consume electrical energy
to keep the wheel going.) BUT, he claims it is
overunity.

Seems simple enough.

Maybe the concept will inspire somebody here.
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Thanks for sharing this Bill.

If Mikhail's wheel inspires me, it only inspires me to write here to say that it is bogus.

It would be more efficient if he had no weights and placed the electric motor's axel in-line with the wheel's axle.

Overunity? My impression is a resounding NOT!

A+ Mr. Dmitriev for build skills but I suspect the power out is equal to the power in less dissipative losses.
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That small motor and arms are pushing to small hammers and to the wheel...
or is the wheel turning just because those small hammers are moved and displaced...
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This is a variant of the "Yu Oscillating gen" or whatever it's called (and there is nothing new in the mentionned device) : an external power source (electric) is used to displace the mass in the way that so many have unsuccessfully attempted via gravity and effects of G induced motion alone. Anybody with a brain can come up with ten million variants of this kind of system. I remember reading somewhere on this forum that a guy had managed to get a wheel to rotate by dispacing a weight across a wheel at precisely the right moment every turn via a compressed air motor. Obviously he did. Same thing here.

The question, and only question, is : if you put in energy to get mechanically obtained balance weight displacement, will there be higher output than input within a given rpm frame owing to forces of centrifugal nature or else ?

Most claims of overunity are comparing apples to oranges, as in "we only put in so many amps and look, we got more volts the other side".

Anybody here can make a unit like this in some form, measure the input in mechanical terms, that means not electricity used by the electric motor, compressor or whatever but mechanical torque as nm, and compare to torque in same unit at the "overunity" device output.

All the rest, as it goes in Olde English, is cock&bull.
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Here is a video i found about shifting weight on a wheel :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBrphdhwhE0
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A tad bit off topic....except Bessler was a German and a showman.



http://www.youtube.com/embed/nd5WGLWNllA?rel=0
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"And did the Countenance Divine,
Shine forth upon our clouded hills?
And was Jerusalem builded here,
Among these dark Satanic Mills?"



Blake's dark satanic mills have come a long way in Germany.
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Not as far as you might think Frank, when you stop consider the poor devils that have been condemned and consigned by VW to spend the rest of their working days on the hellish task of washing and keeping all those damned windows clean. LOL
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