Definition of "Gravity is conservative" ?

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ovyyus wrote:Thanks for the heads-up Murilo. The little man trapped in the wheel obviously seeks a means of escape! :D
It's an animated gif. So, just as bessler left clues, Bill is being cryptic with that Vinci guy taking up a position in the 4 quadrants of a circle.

OK experts and cryptologists, we need to find out what Ovyyus has discovered and is trying to convey.
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A single word might betray my wonderous achievement :P
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Ovyyus

In English I believe it is a two word phrase. In German it may be one word.

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Sorry Alan, you're wrong. My wonderous achievement might be betrayed by a single English word.
AB Hammer wrote:We soon shall see...
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Well there is a single English word as well. but it would have to be in context to understand it.

Another perennial classic? a nice way to say blooming idiot. Bessler said something about keeping one side empty. LOL achieved.
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...Been here 5 years...proof is in the pudding!

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Meant in good fun, don't get mad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDKmEN8ghls

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I have to agree with you Dave, we have all been there in this quest. Multiple! Multiple! times!! ;-))


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Proof is in the pudding, as you say. I am only saying the test before the build are done. I started pre-testing all possible actions and such, for I have built to many just to find another unexpected problem. So it is time to finish the build and prove one way or the (cough!!) other. Confidence is high, lets just hope I am correct.


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I only hit the button once.

It doubled posted.
"Our education can be the limitation to our imagination, and our dreams"

So With out a dream, there is no vision.

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Wow, you've made a 2 x overunity post ! Quick, patent office.
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Hi Alan,

Leverage!!!!!!!!!!!: )

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Don't forget to keep your thumbs clear ,Alan

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Trevor Wrote:
Trevor Lyn Whatford wrote:Leverage!!!!!!!!!!!: )
I take it you mean on a wheel.

If so, Leverage against what?

In a closed system, leverage is pointless

Lets not forget gravitational conservation of energy law.

"Any energy gained from a mass in an gravity field, must be paid for by a loss in height of the mass; and that height cannot be regained utilising the energy generated alone; Irrespective of its path!

"irrespective of its path" pertains to leverage as well.


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Hi Kas,

A out of balance wheel is leverage! leverage of the heavier side acting on the lighter side!

Kas wrote,
Lets not forget gravitational conservation of energy law.
That is a Law (man made) it is not the truth, Mass creates a force of gravity, when you look at the earth move and the friction losses, heat is gained, but the force of gravity is replaced constantly, look a the tides all that movement all that friction, I am sorry but if gravity was a conservative force then its force of gravity should be reduced to account for the work done, there should be a reduction in mass but there is not, so the potential energy that was used up as kinetic energy and heat has been replaced, and is contently replaced so the heat gained is not conserved it is created. I for one refuse to be brain washed by current Physics teaching! Gravity is a generative force! That is the evidence nature is showing me, they have the cheek to call it the natural Laws, they must of had there eyes shut. In short if the force of gravity is constantly renewed so any potential energy that is converted into kinetic energy is also replaced and if that kinetic energy made some heat then that heat was gained well the input of gravity part of it at least.

With respect Trevor

Edit, Kas, which Path are you thinking of? not the counter balance lift path.
Edit, Not forgetting the closed system also man made and not to be found in nature, nature does show us Perpetual Motion though we live on it! how many years has it been in motion?
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Here's an old one just for you Trevor

http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewt ... 1773#51773
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