gravity motor

[timbuckley]

Hello,
a Russian inventor named Mikhail Dmitriev has allegedly created a gravity motor using based on an unbalanced wheel.
Full details can be found here:
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory: ... vity_Wheel

I would like to build such a device in order to prove the concept and then, once the concept is proven, to generate useful amounts of energy.
Can anyone here help me? I have approached one engineering workshop but they failed to return my call, perhaps because of the apparent "flakiness" of this subject.

Best wishes, Tim

[ovyyus]

Hi Tim,

The claim is that the energy required to turn the small motor is much less than the energy gained from the imbalanced larger wheel turning a generator.

Before building anything my advice would be to investigate and analyse the above claim. How is motor input power determined? How is overbalanced wheel output power determined?

Without sounding overly sceptical, my guess is that the inventor has made an error in one or other (or both) measurements.

You're probably correct about why you've had no reply from the engineering shop :)

[satanspawn]

What is your goal Tim? If your goal is to help humanity by lessening our dependence on fossil fuels then I would say this is not the right path. None of the designs on this site will lessen our dependence on fossil fuels. Sure they may run a garden water fountain or something trivial but they are not on the scale where they could make a difference in society. If you want to automate a little bird feeder or fountain of some sort, maybe pump some water uphill, then by all means go for it. Visit a nuclear power plant...the amount of steam energy exerted upon the turbine is truly impressive! A true breakthrough will come when the invention makes coal and nuclear power plants obsolete. Or imagine powering all your electric devices, heating your water, cooling or heating your home etc. with a table top bessler wheel...then everyone would just go to best buy and pick up a bessler wheel - energy nirvana!

[ovyyus]

...are not on the scale where they could make a difference in society...

That must have been said about practically every new invention since the discovery of fire. Early light bulbs were thought by some to have no practical use. The first powered flight wasn't even believed. The first telescope was a heresy. The unimaginative have a long history of being, well, unimaginative. Initial scale is irrelevant.

[satanspawn]

Very true ovyyus however there is a fine line between being practical and being a dreamer. If you built a bessler wheel imagine how big it would have to be (or how many you would need) to equal the output of one nuclear power plant. We already have the scale you speak of today! You guys are trying to solve problems that have been solved for hundreds of years.

[ovyyus]

If you built a bessler wheel imagine how big it would have to be (or how many you would need) to equal the output of one nuclear power plant.

Your imagination is limited by your assumptions. Without understanding the fundamental operating principle of Bessler's wheel, which you do not, how can you determine what energy density may be developed through improvement? The unimaginative always discount potential future improvement and development because they are, well, unimaginative.

[Jim Williams]

A design that runs a garden hose runs the world.

[murilo]

Hello,
a Russian inventor named Mikhail Dmitriev has allegedly created a gravity motor using based on an unbalanced wheel.
Full details can be found here:
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory: ... vity_Wheel

I would like to build such a device in order to prove the concept and then, once the concept is proven, to generate useful amounts of energy.
Can anyone here help me? I have approached one engineering workshop but they failed to return my call, perhaps because of the apparent "flakiness" of this subject.

Best wishes, Tim

Tim, welcome.
This device was already appreciated here.
For a true PM the wheel would turn thanks to small hammers displacement at position 2h.
What one can see is that the small motor with its curved arms SENDS force directly to the wheel, that turns due to this.
Best!
M.

[timbuckley]

Hi there,
thanks for the replies. M I realise the device needs the deflector mechanism in order to start it turning. The question for me is how much torque gets added to the system as a result of the gravitational energy which is input because of the continual unbalancing of the wheel. As one commentator says at the website, it seems odd that the inventor has not "self-looped" the device if over-unity effects have been produced. However there may be practical reasons why the inventor has not made this a stand alone self powered device, eg the deflector has to work in a synchronized way with the rotating weights on the main wheel. The videos suggest to me that the wheel is genuinely unbalanced, and it appears that this effect must INCREASE the energy input by the deflector mechanism but without constructing such a mechanism and testing it this remains speculation on my part!


Cheers, Tim