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No Frank...
Not kidding, just being pragmatic and not so easily taken in by a demonstration that's been rather obviously concieved and crafted to make a particular type of impression rather than any particular type of automobile.
Now there's no machine with an eye for dust or a spec of dirt or that's as absolutely fastidious and thoroughgoing when it comes to rubbing it out of existence as your typical German hausfrau generally is and there's bound to be any number of jack-booted and no-nonsense ones that run the cleaning department in that building like some well-honed machine itself for VW.
Personally I can't see how any machine or glass-coating could ever measure up to that national standard of excellence, much less the astronomical cost for it to ever be as "perfect" as that when nothing less will do where this plant happens to be and no less to whom it is catering to get their poor Hanses and Fritzies to commit to buying one of those grossly overpriced and underpowered sleds.
So you can forget the glitz and glitter when virtually any other car maker will sell you one that will do far more, cost far less, and fare far better when it comes all the essentials or routine repairs and maintenance that none of them never bothers tell anyone are missing from all of their ironclad warranties untill well after they've actually bought one and are stuck right where they want you to be. And nobody, but nobody has perfected milking that cash-cow with anything even approaching the kind of dedication to perfection VW has applied to that.
So I'm quite sure there has to be a demonic cleaning crew of storm troopers that blitzkriegs all that glass on a daily basis as well as steadily picks-up, disposes of, and re-supplys the scads of impeccible white coveralls and spotless white gloves that are needed to go along with this whole illusionary trip and that no doubt resides deep in the very bowels of that VW installation and promptly springs into action just as soon as nobody's actually around or looking.
And what about all those square miles of gleaming and genuine hardwood floors and shiny countertops, no less? Do you suppose they simply keep themselves that way, too?
No the whole place would be an absolute "nightmare" to clean and keep spick-n-span inside and out and if keeping all that spotless, dustless, and pristine prettiness doesn't look and sound like some fiendish plot and hellish task that's been masterminded strictly for some other and more nefarious purposes, I certainly don't know what would be.
As for the mind-set of all the poor devils that must live in absolute paranoia or abject terror of ever being caught with even a smudge or a smear on their spanking white "uniforms" or putting even a scuff much less a dent in all that gleaming hardwood... I simply shudder to imagine what happens whenever any parts or tools inadvertently get dropped or any drips of oil happen to land anywhere they shouldn't and there isn't much space, if any, that doesn't actually fall into that category.
Nope, it's definitely an up to date "Satanic mill", all right. A clear reversal and another perverse rendering of that "Cleanliness being close to Godliness" thing that Germans in particular are only too susceptible to in trying convince them that simply buying some devilish VW product must be just as Godly coming from those surroundings.
"Merit and quality" rather than "guilt" simply by association with the all the appropriate trappings carefully put into place for it, too.
Desperate measures for desperate times, is far more like it... and in no very uncertain terms, If I'm not mistaken. More propaganda from the same guys who invented and pefected that to a fine art too.
It's certainly a cute reversal and a nice twist on the equally devilish old Rolls' plants and foundries that used to openly build "Ghosts, Wraiths", and "Phantoms" that were absolutely guaranteed to last some avaricious millionaire a lifetime to get them to part with a good chunk of the money they were so busy selling their souls for to help turn up the heat on them and everyone else...hmmm?
And of course those demon devices were all replete with a gleaming chrome figurine of one flying on the hoods of them to top that deviltry right off in very plain sight... or did you actually think that was an "angel" or something?
Perhaps you ought to take a better look at the next one you see passing-by. All that's really missing is a sythe in one of that not so fair "Emily's" hand to complete the real figure she's "emulating".
Of ourse Rolls didn't just to cast their engine blocks in iron to impress and induce those surly and stingy fat-cats to buy them, they made a show and a fanfare out of tagging and casting them straight out into the weed-filled yard right beside the plant to be openly seen weathering all the elements for at least five years before dragging them back in, grinding them down, and boring them out with the idea being sold that if they hadn't cracked by then, they simply never would.
All just clever and obvious "tricks" for the gullible, however, to try and convince the unwary and lead them astray, rich or poor, by appealing to their utterly false sense of pride and vanity to separate them from more money than whatever they thought they were getting was worth and have them believe it was a bargain at that.
Just window dressing, Frank. In this case as clear a sign as any that whatever is left of the German's sense of "process engineering" has been brutally hi-jacked and re-focussed in exactly all the wrong places these days.
And here we are tinkering with rough hewn wood and base lead in our modest basements, garages and backyards trying to discover the ultimate "Secret of the Universe"....hmmm?
Well we won't ever manage to do that untill we wise-up enough to see through this kind sheer fraud and fakery for both what it is and isn't, instead simply and constantly being wowed by it like some naieve little children.
Tons of money and no amount of effort are spared to simply impress and convince people of just how smart, modern and sophisticated they presumably are while the cars that result are certainly no better for the diversion of all those resources towards that end while what actually goes into them all comes from distant shores and is made out the cheapest bloody materials that can be scrounged up with no standards of any kind in how they're being manufactured by virtual slaves that are indentured to work for pennies an hour or a few pounds of rice a week or else starve to death.
An absolutely false facade of modernity that depends on an unseen and ever growing world that's like something straight out of Dickens to actually support and maintain it for the sheer pleasure of the few miserable creatures that reap all the rewards and benefits of that deception.
So I'm no more than half-kidding at best about any of this. It would and should be laughable if only it weren't true. Unfortunately the more you honestly examine and confront it, the more you simply find out that's exactly how it actually is.
Not kidding, just being pragmatic and not so easily taken in by a demonstration that's been rather obviously concieved and crafted to make a particular type of impression rather than any particular type of automobile.
Now there's no machine with an eye for dust or a spec of dirt or that's as absolutely fastidious and thoroughgoing when it comes to rubbing it out of existence as your typical German hausfrau generally is and there's bound to be any number of jack-booted and no-nonsense ones that run the cleaning department in that building like some well-honed machine itself for VW.
Personally I can't see how any machine or glass-coating could ever measure up to that national standard of excellence, much less the astronomical cost for it to ever be as "perfect" as that when nothing less will do where this plant happens to be and no less to whom it is catering to get their poor Hanses and Fritzies to commit to buying one of those grossly overpriced and underpowered sleds.
So you can forget the glitz and glitter when virtually any other car maker will sell you one that will do far more, cost far less, and fare far better when it comes all the essentials or routine repairs and maintenance that none of them never bothers tell anyone are missing from all of their ironclad warranties untill well after they've actually bought one and are stuck right where they want you to be. And nobody, but nobody has perfected milking that cash-cow with anything even approaching the kind of dedication to perfection VW has applied to that.
So I'm quite sure there has to be a demonic cleaning crew of storm troopers that blitzkriegs all that glass on a daily basis as well as steadily picks-up, disposes of, and re-supplys the scads of impeccible white coveralls and spotless white gloves that are needed to go along with this whole illusionary trip and that no doubt resides deep in the very bowels of that VW installation and promptly springs into action just as soon as nobody's actually around or looking.
And what about all those square miles of gleaming and genuine hardwood floors and shiny countertops, no less? Do you suppose they simply keep themselves that way, too?
No the whole place would be an absolute "nightmare" to clean and keep spick-n-span inside and out and if keeping all that spotless, dustless, and pristine prettiness doesn't look and sound like some fiendish plot and hellish task that's been masterminded strictly for some other and more nefarious purposes, I certainly don't know what would be.
As for the mind-set of all the poor devils that must live in absolute paranoia or abject terror of ever being caught with even a smudge or a smear on their spanking white "uniforms" or putting even a scuff much less a dent in all that gleaming hardwood... I simply shudder to imagine what happens whenever any parts or tools inadvertently get dropped or any drips of oil happen to land anywhere they shouldn't and there isn't much space, if any, that doesn't actually fall into that category.
Nope, it's definitely an up to date "Satanic mill", all right. A clear reversal and another perverse rendering of that "Cleanliness being close to Godliness" thing that Germans in particular are only too susceptible to in trying convince them that simply buying some devilish VW product must be just as Godly coming from those surroundings.
"Merit and quality" rather than "guilt" simply by association with the all the appropriate trappings carefully put into place for it, too.
Desperate measures for desperate times, is far more like it... and in no very uncertain terms, If I'm not mistaken. More propaganda from the same guys who invented and pefected that to a fine art too.
It's certainly a cute reversal and a nice twist on the equally devilish old Rolls' plants and foundries that used to openly build "Ghosts, Wraiths", and "Phantoms" that were absolutely guaranteed to last some avaricious millionaire a lifetime to get them to part with a good chunk of the money they were so busy selling their souls for to help turn up the heat on them and everyone else...hmmm?
And of course those demon devices were all replete with a gleaming chrome figurine of one flying on the hoods of them to top that deviltry right off in very plain sight... or did you actually think that was an "angel" or something?
Perhaps you ought to take a better look at the next one you see passing-by. All that's really missing is a sythe in one of that not so fair "Emily's" hand to complete the real figure she's "emulating".
Of ourse Rolls didn't just to cast their engine blocks in iron to impress and induce those surly and stingy fat-cats to buy them, they made a show and a fanfare out of tagging and casting them straight out into the weed-filled yard right beside the plant to be openly seen weathering all the elements for at least five years before dragging them back in, grinding them down, and boring them out with the idea being sold that if they hadn't cracked by then, they simply never would.
All just clever and obvious "tricks" for the gullible, however, to try and convince the unwary and lead them astray, rich or poor, by appealing to their utterly false sense of pride and vanity to separate them from more money than whatever they thought they were getting was worth and have them believe it was a bargain at that.
Just window dressing, Frank. In this case as clear a sign as any that whatever is left of the German's sense of "process engineering" has been brutally hi-jacked and re-focussed in exactly all the wrong places these days.
And here we are tinkering with rough hewn wood and base lead in our modest basements, garages and backyards trying to discover the ultimate "Secret of the Universe"....hmmm?
Well we won't ever manage to do that untill we wise-up enough to see through this kind sheer fraud and fakery for both what it is and isn't, instead simply and constantly being wowed by it like some naieve little children.
Tons of money and no amount of effort are spared to simply impress and convince people of just how smart, modern and sophisticated they presumably are while the cars that result are certainly no better for the diversion of all those resources towards that end while what actually goes into them all comes from distant shores and is made out the cheapest bloody materials that can be scrounged up with no standards of any kind in how they're being manufactured by virtual slaves that are indentured to work for pennies an hour or a few pounds of rice a week or else starve to death.
An absolutely false facade of modernity that depends on an unseen and ever growing world that's like something straight out of Dickens to actually support and maintain it for the sheer pleasure of the few miserable creatures that reap all the rewards and benefits of that deception.
So I'm no more than half-kidding at best about any of this. It would and should be laughable if only it weren't true. Unfortunately the more you honestly examine and confront it, the more you simply find out that's exactly how it actually is.
Fondest Regards from the Fox
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re: New videos on the net
Just up on PES Network 3-27-11
http://pesn.com/2011/03/27/9501798_The_ ... avity_Box/
Has one embedded video and link to four more videos.
from text:
the end. It reminds the guy of someone else who has
some details in a patent and provides a link to the patent.
http://pesn.com/2011/03/27/9501798_The_ ... avity_Box/
Has one embedded video and link to four more videos.
from text:
No technical details, but the story has a comment at...the device is described as representing a gravity control technology that produces action without reaction.
Gravity is actually claimed to be produced by the box via the use of solid state components. This reaction-less
propulsion mechanism is claimed to be more efficient than any current technology used today and can be used
to produce motion in any direction, potentially including up or down.
the end. It reminds the guy of someone else who has
some details in a patent and provides a link to the patent.
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re: New videos on the net
I see nothing in that vid which couldn't be faked with a bit of fishing nylon. Furthermore, calling it a "Black Box" -a reference to the old SF stuff- stinks. Most definitely a hoax.
This one has more credibility http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juy9dJ7k9K0
This one has more credibility http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juy9dJ7k9K0
If you think you have an overunity device, think again, there is no such thing. You might just possibly have an unexpectedly efficient device. In which case you will be abducted by MIB and threatened by aliens.
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re: New videos on the net
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Arthur C. Clarke, "Profiles of The Future", 1961 (Clarke's third law)
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re: New videos on the net
SF is obviously "science FICTION" man. i wonder if people set out to make fake videos to try and fool people or if they were making legitimate attemps and this junk is all the failed crap they have left over?
Is their money to be made by this fake stuff, if so let me know. I suppose we could post lots of it here and draw attention to get advertisers, oh yeah then we would be just like Pesn and OU. Let them keep it.
Is their money to be made by this fake stuff, if so let me know. I suppose we could post lots of it here and draw attention to get advertisers, oh yeah then we would be just like Pesn and OU. Let them keep it.
Si mobile in circumferentia circuli feratur ea celeritate, quam acquirit cadendo ex
altitudine, quae sit quartae parti diameter aequalis ; habebit vim centrifugam suae
gravitati aequalem.
altitudine, quae sit quartae parti diameter aequalis ; habebit vim centrifugam suae
gravitati aequalem.
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re: New videos on the net
Well, it's April fool's day soon, guess this is a prank. Anybody starts talking getting to Mars in 28 days with a lo-res vid of a black box, run. Or laugh :)
Bill, you seem like a nice guy, I'll let you in on a big deal: Do you want to earn 200,000.00 dollars just like that, no risk, no effort? Easy! I have this prize guinea pig worth a million dollars, which I'll let you have for a mere 800 000 bucks (no checks please, only used 100 dollar bills). A fortnight later, I buy back the guinea pig for a million dollars. Wait a minute, you say, this is too good to be true, he's gonna bounce a cheque. No way. I'll give you two hamsters worth 500 000 dollars each, all you have to do is sell them and you've made it real big. This transaction means I trust you, 'coz what's to stop you taking off with the guinea pig and leaving me saddled with two useless hamsters? Now, why would I make you an offer like this? Well, I already got more money than I need, more wives than I can handle, and a garage full of luxury cars and it's getting to be a hassle that I can't sleep at night wondering about some jealous poor person is going to kidnap me or something, so I want to make YOU rich too, that way I spread the risk. And that is the honest Injun truth, Bill.
Bill, you seem like a nice guy, I'll let you in on a big deal: Do you want to earn 200,000.00 dollars just like that, no risk, no effort? Easy! I have this prize guinea pig worth a million dollars, which I'll let you have for a mere 800 000 bucks (no checks please, only used 100 dollar bills). A fortnight later, I buy back the guinea pig for a million dollars. Wait a minute, you say, this is too good to be true, he's gonna bounce a cheque. No way. I'll give you two hamsters worth 500 000 dollars each, all you have to do is sell them and you've made it real big. This transaction means I trust you, 'coz what's to stop you taking off with the guinea pig and leaving me saddled with two useless hamsters? Now, why would I make you an offer like this? Well, I already got more money than I need, more wives than I can handle, and a garage full of luxury cars and it's getting to be a hassle that I can't sleep at night wondering about some jealous poor person is going to kidnap me or something, so I want to make YOU rich too, that way I spread the risk. And that is the honest Injun truth, Bill.
If you think you have an overunity device, think again, there is no such thing. You might just possibly have an unexpectedly efficient device. In which case you will be abducted by MIB and threatened by aliens.
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re: New videos on the net
from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Sagan
fair amount of science fiction. These days, not so much.
I seem to get my entertainment by visiting web sites about
free energy, over unity, and perpetual motion.
If I keep open minded enough, I can get a sense of wonder and
satisfaction from anyone's clever new idea.
And a sense of dramatic suspense in watching to see what comes next.
It is good to be a skeptic. But if you go to a magic show in Vegas,
don't keep standing up during the act and shouting "FAKE! FAKE!".
The people all around you are going to think poorly of you.
When I was much younger I used to entertain myself by reading aSagan is also widely regarded as a freethinker or skeptic; one of his most famous quotations, in Cosmos, was, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" (called the "Sagan Standard" by some).
This was based on a nearly identical statement by fellow founder of the Committee for the Scientific Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal, Marcello Truzzi, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof."
This idea originated with Pierre-Simon Laplace (1749–1827), a French mathematician and astronomer who said, "The weight of evidence for an extraordinary claim must be proportioned to its strangeness."
fair amount of science fiction. These days, not so much.
I seem to get my entertainment by visiting web sites about
free energy, over unity, and perpetual motion.
If I keep open minded enough, I can get a sense of wonder and
satisfaction from anyone's clever new idea.
And a sense of dramatic suspense in watching to see what comes next.
It is good to be a skeptic. But if you go to a magic show in Vegas,
don't keep standing up during the act and shouting "FAKE! FAKE!".
The people all around you are going to think poorly of you.
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Ok, some more PM porn from:
http://pesn.com/2011/04/13/9501808_OBMs ... roduction/
Has a good video on second half of web page.
From the site:
Yes, indeed, the spinning arm attaches to a small alternator
which charges a battery which runs the motor to spin the arm
and extend + retract the weight.
Hmmm. Does this close the loop or not? (No outside testing yet!?)
What if they tested it by running it continuously in a room in a castle,
behind a sealed door, for 40 days?
http://pesn.com/2011/04/13/9501808_OBMs ... roduction/
Has a good video on second half of web page.
From the site:
The basic concept of this technology is not too complicated. A pair of spinning rotor arms are mounted vertically like a windmill or propeller of a plane. Near the end of one arm is an extension that can move outward or contract. By pulling the extension of the arm inwards during part of the cycle (as the arm moves upwards against gravity) an acceleration can occur. The effect is similar to an ice skater pulling her arms inward to spin faster. Next, as the arm is moving downwards, the extension is released so it can slide outwards due to centrifugal force. This increases the leverage on the arm due to gravity. The result of this cycle is claimed to be a gain of energy.
Yes, indeed, the spinning arm attaches to a small alternator
which charges a battery which runs the motor to spin the arm
and extend + retract the weight.
Hmmm. Does this close the loop or not? (No outside testing yet!?)
What if they tested it by running it continuously in a room in a castle,
behind a sealed door, for 40 days?
re: New videos on the net
If the technology was producing more rotational power than input, then they should be able to make it turn without any motor/alternator combo.
Once CF has pulled it out, it accelerates downwards, and is even harder to pull back in for the reset at 6, where you are fighting gravity + increased CF.
Once CF has pulled it out, it accelerates downwards, and is even harder to pull back in for the reset at 6, where you are fighting gravity + increased CF.
re: New videos on the net
I only realized too late that life was short.
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On that scale and with that complexity the disappointment must have been great.
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DrWhat,
A waste of time and metal!
He should have paid attention to my research results on this design when I posted them on Over Unity. I shot it down so Peter Lindemann took it to another forum.
Ralph
A waste of time and metal!
He should have paid attention to my research results on this design when I posted them on Over Unity. I shot it down so Peter Lindemann took it to another forum.
Ralph
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Is this really a working wheel as the speaker pretends?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TV5PCtUBOSI
If this DOES work, it is curious this fantastic device is remaining at the public view...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TV5PCtUBOSI
If this DOES work, it is curious this fantastic device is remaining at the public view...
I cannot imagine why nobody though on this before, including myself? It is so simple!...