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classic troll :D
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murilo, your no longer worth the trouble, red dot and onto my ignore list. Its not like i'm going to miss anything. Youve never had an original idea or contributed anything intelligent to any other discussion other than delusional distraction with a worthless idea.
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Sometimes we hold on to long. So here is something to lighten things up I hope.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlBiLNN1NhQ
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You are right Alan :-)
Of course, myself, I was hoping someone would find the engineering behind Bessler's wheel as interesting as I have.
Unfortunately, some things never change. If so, Bessler would have had his school.
And he held onto his grudge for not being able to teach people about those things in engineering that he had discovered.
That is why he tookhis bitterness to the grave.
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Well remember Bessler had to put up with a lot of pressure to show his secret, to force him to give it away. That alone causes a lot of stress. So it was simple. Pay his price to get his secret. Many tried to ruin his reputation as well to force it out of him for free. It must of been fate, that the Czar of Russia died and the payment wet back before the transaction. So it may of been fate that it was to early as well. But now the time is wright for it, and the credit thieves are in force now days. That is why I haven't posted much of late. Proof and security first. Then show the world.

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Alan,
Since it is Bessler's wheel, what reason would someone have for keeping it secret ?
It is as has been said before, no one knows what Bessler's wheel looked like. This would
allow someone to claim it as their own if done in secrecy.
Otherwise, what is to be gained ? The posts would show what would need to be known about
who is to get credit for their part.

edited to add; looking on the bright side of things, I am disregarded by many for taking the time to build some of Bessler's drawings and learn by actually doing.
That comes out almost backwards.
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The Big secret is that there are many ways to achieve it. Only assumptions that fit the clues can give an idea which one may have been Bessler's. Then again there is still no proof. So this give us the wright to claim. But without Bessler, you have to ask. Where would we be today. So IMO Bessler still will be vindicated and his place in history is clearly set. That is what is owed to Bessler, only.


Alan

edited to add to your edited to add.

I have tried several of the MTs and many lessons are good to learn from them. But you also have to ask. How many of the MTs where Bessler's?
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>>I have tried several of the MTs and many lessons are good to learn from them.<<

How would anyone know this when you work in private ?

>> But you also have to ask. How many of the MTs where Bessler's?<<

Do you think Bessler lied about his work ?

edited to add; You know what I think hurt me Alan ? It is as Helmut said about me, I sounded like a born again Christian when I talked about Bessler and his engineering. He was right.
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Post by AB Hammer »

LOL Jim/to.late/P-Motion

I only have few videos and a Few basic photos. No need to document every test. look at my album here. You should see a couple there. Otherwise I am far far beyond the basics these days. ;-)
You have to look for the prime movers, then you can look back and look at the MTs in a new way. This is my best advice to you.

Good day!

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>>look at my album here<<

This is a joke, right ?
I saw nothing of Bessler.

>> Otherwise I am far far beyond the basics <<

What I saw was not up to the basic level yet.

I think it is as my brother would say. To have a battle of wits with you would require you to have some.
For me to say anything more would almost be like picking on a child who does not know better. I like to think I have more respect for engineering and Bessler than that.
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Funny turn this thread is taking, reminds me of some stuff that went on a while back.

Until proved totally wrong by a build which is to the believer's spec, everybody is free to believe what they want. If a guy say's popcorn is overunity, I'm not going to argue with him.

And anyway, who's to say bessler's wheel didn't run on popcorn ? For sure that was the eight "bangs" heard on each side. It goes this way : bessler had an organ bellow in his wheel, the wheel being only an outer casing which revolved, what was in there apart from the organ bellow was popcorn in a frying pan, an' a Poponov seesaw pumping the bellows which built up air pressure driving a jacob's ladder thing which exerted enormous pressure in the oven chamber, and eventually, pop went the OU corn and there you are the air pressure is added into the circuit reducing the effort required to pump the bellows, unless the air was directed onto a sail at one end of the poponov. An' this fit's in nicely with the servant maid's story 'bout the old man in another room pulling a string, except she was too stoopid to realize the guy wasn't actuating the wheel, he was just feeding the machine corn, and eating the popcorn himself, an' the proof of that is how else do you explain that the room wasn't full of popcorn when they opened it ?
If you think you have an overunity device, think again, there is no such thing. You might just possibly have an unexpectedly efficient device. In which case you will be abducted by MIB and threatened by aliens.
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Nick,
Alan has about always harassed me. Even my accident I was in.
It seems his only concern is doing what he can to be popular. And his attacking me has always helped in that respect.
Of course, this is because as he maintains, why build Bessler's drawings when they are non runners.
And this is where he and everyone else missed the point. But it has helped him to gain much credibility.
And that is where the rating system is nothing but a popularity contest.

edited to add; Alan, you've harassed me ever since I posted in Museum of Hoaxes. I guess it was because they liked the fact that I understood how to apply math to this type of behavior and all you could say was that in 2 weeks you would have a working wheel so you could retire.
It's people like you that have always looked for a free ride that have hated people like me who are willing to work.
Any more, I think you're a waste of time and words.
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Jim/to.late,

The rating system is not a popularity contest.

It is rated on how you can carry on a discussion/debate about wheel designs and the value and integrity of your input. You seem to lack or are misguided in these areas. Debates, arguments, and suggested input builds character as long as you stay on subject material.

When you and Alan take it personal it only hurts both of you. Take it back to Over-Unity where they are use to the two of you burning up pages of trying to out insult each the other.

Yes I have red dotted you! Not just once but for every time you have re-registered here with a different name.

I for one am sick and tired of hearing about how Alan harasses you and your accident. What has that got to do with researching for Bessler's secret. You ran me away from Over-unity as I got tired of getting notices of your constant hassle with other members, mainly Alan.

When I was a baby my father use to bounce me up and down on his Knee, boy! did We had a very low ceiling, now at 71 I am bald and absent minded, I do not make a big thing about it or blame my father!

Attacking you does not build respect for the attacker. All it does is drag them down to the same level. For the same reason I am not winning any points by writing this. The point is to teach you some self respect and social behavior which you are surely lacking.

If you feel Alan is a waste of time and words, then why do you keep harping about it. Ignore him so we can live without your insinuations then he can do the same with you.

I feel assured that you will speed read this and pick out points that you can transpose into something in your favor as you have always done in the past.

When are you going to learn that the MT drawings are a collection of varied inventors attempts, they are not builds by Bessler and none of them work.

There! once again you dragging me down with you! I red dotted you long ago and now you are going on my ignore list. You will not drive me away from this forum like you did on Over-Unity.

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>>look at my album here<<

This is a joke, right ?
I saw nothing of Bessler.

>> Otherwise I am far far beyond the basics <<

What I saw was not up to the basic level yet.

I think it is as my brother would say. To have a battle of wits with you would require you to have some.
For me to say anything more would almost be like picking on a child who does not know better. I like to think I have more respect for engineering and Bessler than that.

Jim/P-Motion/to.late and how many sign in names you have here to keep your red dots down from banishment here.

When you talk respect, it is a joke. You don't even respect the rules here.

Nick,
Alan has about always harassed me. Even my accident I was in.
It seems his only concern is doing what he can to be popular. And his attacking me has always helped in that respect.
Of course, this is because as he maintains, why build Bessler's drawings when they are non runners.
And this is where he and everyone else missed the point. But it has helped him to gain much credibility.
And that is where the rating system is nothing but a popularity contest.

edited to add; Alan, you've harassed me ever since I posted in Museum of Hoaxes. I guess it was because they liked the fact that I understood how to apply math to this type of behavior and all you could say was that in 2 weeks you would have a working wheel so you could retire.
It's people like you that have always looked for a free ride that have hated people like me who are willing to work.
Complete bull!!! You are harassing me and somehow in your delusions you turn it around. That is almost as bad as shooting someone and try claiming they shot you. Learn how to look at yourself before it is to late.

You can rant and rave about me all you want. But please get some much needed help. I will say no more to you.
"Our education can be the limitation to our imagination, and our dreams"

So With out a dream, there is no vision.

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Alan,
I know you will say what ever you like because you always do.
I actually took the time to have my account and all threads deleted because of you.
Why you were allowed to openly harass me I never understood. Yet the only thing the threads I started would show was your need for attention and your willingness to do what ever you had to to get it.
When I had cancer, I asked you to leave me alone. You said that was no reason. It was conduct like that, that helped me to decide to have all threads deleted.
It does take a small, small man to harass someone while they are being treated for cancer.
Yet when I told you that my care givers would say I should be doing something to maintain a positive frame of mind, there was you saying, Jim, give it up.

edited to add; @All, I would apologize for this, but for the last few years, I have taken a lot of abuse from Alan.

@Alan,
since you believe having the last word makes you right, I will let you have all you want. but remember what I have always told you, lose the weight and get rid of the crutch, you'll feel better.
It does take a lot of work. Been there done that !
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