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AB Hammer wrote:Ralph

Please leave me out of anything James.Lindgaard sends. I don't even want indirect contact without witnesses. He is always trying to claim crap. This is a sick game to him.

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Alan,
One thing you have made me aware of is that people really don't care.
In the grand scheme of things, the pet rock back in the 70's will be found to be worth more than this.

edited to add; it's like these green dots and reds dots Alan, they only mean something because someone believes they do. It is like the guy who became King of England before the start of WW II said, I'm a King and yet I can not do anything.
He found out it mattered to the people who needed someone to look up to. This may have surprised him that it was his moral support that made the difference.
Yet religion does not matter. Look at you, you are a theologian. You consider the Bible logically. Yet to have any real meaning, it does not. it is only a book with a bunch of words that people really don't care about.
After all, you have a family and yet would hate to see me have someone in my life. Why ? Because then you couldn't say you are better than me. And that is all that really matters, isn't it ? Being able to say we are better than someone else. otherwise, what do we have to get up for in the morning ?
And that is what you have made me aware. Just like Jimi Hendrix said, life is a joke. If only it were a funny one.
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GOOD DAY JAMES,

It was my intention to give you the benefit of a doubt. To really look closely at what you had to submit and give you a clear, concise and unbiased analysis. Those of us at Arache take our mission seriously and we do not disclose, even among ourselves, that which a submitter has decided to submit.

I promise you, I have had no communication with Ralph or any other member of the Arache Group regarding your submission.

I have spent several hours pouring over your descriptions and drawings.

Honestly, I have tried my best to make sense of what you have submitted to me.

Throughout the process of trying to decipher your ideas and configuration I was torn between the two thoughts that you were either trying to play a trick on us or that you are actually mentally retarded. I apologize for these comments but it is the truth. You have either left out some important details that didn't get through my spam filter or you are truly several levers and a weight short of balanced.

I really wanted to make some sense of what you so freely had to share, but I am at a loss to see the least viability it what you gave me to study.

I hope that you find the time to resubmit your idea with a description of the actual mechanism and drawings that actually make sense.

After reading your comments to Ralph above, I went back and took another close look at your submittal. I was afraid it was just me that was not seeing the light but now I fear that there is no light here to see.

If you truly believe you have an idea that shows merit, I encourage you to take the time to complete your illustrations, label them in a manner consistent with known practices, give a complete description of the action you anticipate and resubmit this to us.

Unfortunately I can not give you an opinion based on what you have forwarded to me.

Edit: Dude! You seem to have a chip on your shoulder of hither-to unheard of proportions. You really should consider the possibility that you might benefit from some lengthy professional help.
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unbalanced,
Have to disagree with you. But then, alan never has told anyone why he targets me.
It is because I caught him stealing an idea I posted to someone on youtube.
We were both invited to the same private forum where he said he would reveal the details of his self rolling wheel after he got patent prote3ction.
I posted it's description in an open forum where he posted and ever since he thinks I owe hims omething. You know, I took his comfortable retiremnet away from him.
As to your comments about me, I would have to say your engineering skills if you have any should be considered seriously lacking.
But as you said, you are a part of ralph's group and I doubt you would disagree with you master.
It really does show you guys give to much credence to your green dots as you actual understanding this type of engineering. It could be where Scott made a mistake, making popularity more important than the discussion.
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unbalanced,
Have to disagree with you. But then, alan never has told anyone why he targets me.
It is because I caught him stealing an idea I posted to someone on youtube.
We were both invited to the same private forum where he said he would reveal the details of his self rolling wheel after he got patent protection.
I posted it's description in an open forum where he posted and ever since he thinks I owe him something. You know, I took his comfortable retirement away from him.
As to your comments about me, I would have to say your engineering skills if you have any should be considered seriously lacking.
But as you said, you are a part of ralph's group and I doubt you would disagree with you master.
It really does show you guys give to much credence to your green dots as your actual understanding this type of engineering. It could be where Scott made a mistake, making popularity more important than the discussion.
At least now, I do believe I will truly enjoy doing this build myself. as they say, if you wish something to be done right, do it yourself.

edited to correct spelling and add; one of the things with a build such as this, I believe it best to have vented my frustration with Alan so it would not become a part of the build. And when finished, well, if calmer voices were listened to, then.......
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James,

Please don't be distracted or dissuaded by our posts. You may actually hold the key to Bessler's secret. What Ralph and I are saying is that you gave us insufficient information to make a determination.

I believe your intentions are good. You will benefit by staying focused on what you believe is a working concept and just do not engage or share in thoughts that deviate from this as these are just not important.

I have a very strong feeling that I have seen your submission in the past. That you have submitted this to me or the group before and that you have not changed your drawings or descriptions since.

I really do want to help you if I am able. You may think that "going it alone" is best and perhaps it is to the extent that you have had difficulty explaining this concept to us.

I encourage you to take some time to try again, to give us a fair chance at evaluating your idea with more detailed illustrations.
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"you are actually mentally retarded."
Unbalanced

Priceless, LOL
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Will you get a life Jim? You've been posting the same tired, old, ill concieved ideas since I began participating in this and the Overunity forum. It was YOU who ruined the Overunity forum with your relentless spam posting and constant ad hominem BS which for whatever reason seems to be almost exclusively directed at Alan and Ralph. No one contributes to that forum any more because they know you will simply hijack their thread and make it all about you and your vitriolic hatred for Alan. So congratulations! Way to ruin it for everyone!

I in fact first came here to avoid having to read your constant BS. Here I found a very talented group who collectively have created some very impressive builds and experiments. All you need to do is browse the albums. Here there was actual discussion and well informed debate about the problem we're all trying to solve (perhaps in vaine). That was until you showed up...

For all of your talk about "math" and "engineering" you still haven't even come close to anything resembling a viable concept. I have seen all of the drawings you've posted in open forums and they all can be seen as non-running dead ends almost immediately.

It seems to me that this whole endeavor has become more about you playing the victim that you actually trying to construct a working wheel. When your threads stand idle, because your ideas suck, you start adding post upon post about how people are jealous of you and how Alan and Ralph have victimized you by stealing "ingenious" ideas. Delusions of granduer anyone?

Here's a news flash Jim: NO ONE WANTS YOUR STUPID IDEAS. Even someone with the most rudimentary understanding of physics can see that they will not work.

/rant

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On judgement day; that day when either someone posts irrefutable proof that a runner cannot exist to everyone's satisfaction or a runner is posted, ignor everything else and remember to celebrate.
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erick wrote:Will you get a life Jim? You've been posting the same tired, old, ill concieved ideas since I began participating in this and the Overunity forum. It was YOU who ruined the Overunity forum with your relentless spam posting and constant ad hominem BS which for whatever reason seems to be almost exclusively directed at Alan and Ralph. No one contributes to that forum any more because they know you will simply hijack their thread and make it all about you and your vitriolic hatred for Alan. So congratulations! Way to ruin it for everyone!

I in fact first came here to avoid having to read your constant BS. Here I found a very talented group who collectively have created some very impressive builds and experiments. All you need to do is browse the albums. Here there was actual discussion and well informed debate about the problem we're all trying to solve (perhaps in vaine). That was until you showed up...

For all of your talk about "math" and "engineering" you still haven't even come close to anything resembling a viable concept. I have seen all of the drawings you've posted in open forums and they all can be seen as non-running dead ends almost immediately.

It seems to me that this whole endeavor has become more about you playing the victim that you actually trying to construct a working wheel. When your threads stand idle, because your ideas suck, you start adding post upon post about how people are jealous of you and how Alan and Ralph have victimized you by stealing "ingenious" ideas. Delusions of granduer anyone?

Here's a news flash Jim: NO ONE WANTS YOUR STUPID IDEAS. Even someone with the most rudimentary understanding of physics can see that they will not work.

/rant

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holy crap, i wrote the same thing then erased it, I assume this moron gets the same treatment in real life and noone pays any attention to him so i did not want to give him an audience.

When i was younger there was this kid in the neighborhood that noone wanted to play with cause he was a complete asswipe, well everytime we would be somewhere doing something he would follow us and yell at us or swear at us and just be a total pain, throwing rocks etc. We would chase him down beat he ever living hell out of him, and he would begin to beg for forgiveness, and say sorry. By the time we would get on our bikes and get 50 feet from him he would start telling us he was going to kick our butts. Standing their, bloody crying and his clothes ripped he would still want another beating.

I had so much trouble understanding it until later in life. Some people are such losers that even a beating is better than no attention at all. And whats even sadder is that they can't figure out why they keep getting bloodied.

Yes i am ashamed of the behaviour of my childjhood but they were different times. I had my fair share of blood spilt. when we weren't beating him up we were beating each other up. I'm sure many here can relate.


I don't know what ever happened to that kid, i assumed he got older. But i'm sure he never changed. I can't imagine how delusioned Jim Lingard must be but all i can do is try and remember this kid and just realize some people will never learn. We have all beat him up enough times. Maybe Scott should just find a way top ban him for life, and when he shows up in any incarnation we immediately forward it to scott with hopes of immediate termination.

I have not made a donation in awhile but would certainly make one if Scott would agree to be PROactive with this idiot. I would ban any IP from his local server if it were me. There cannot be any intelligent life in his neighborhood.

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Considring I do not have an account there, i am not sure why I would post there. I had Stefan delete my account.
It is as I told a German friend of mine, people could have been jealous of Bessler because of his success and attacked him for it the way you are attacking me.
And this would help to explain why you guys are so long winded. Hoping to convince yourselves of your own lies.
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Something has occured to me, many of you attacking me could be asssociated with rlortie and his build group which is for profit.
And with myself, I am working on Bessler which is for historical purposes and not for profit.
A conflict of interest.
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James.Lindgaard

I've been here almost five years and I've yet to see anyone survive a lie. Rather, in my experience Bessler's Wheel has been a place of refuge from those whom would attempt to fool one into a belief of a runner, as time has time and again been all that is necessary for supposed runners to disappear. What is this jealousy of your success of which you speak? I don't fathom it. Success at a runner? What runner is that? I haven't seen one from you, or anybody else, including Bessler, for that matter. Without a runner, it can't be success at making the attempt at solving Bessler's wheel in itself, as everyone here has already had that experience. People are treating you like Bessler because of your success? Sorry, I don't get it.
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There exists the very real threat that this forum could be reduced to that of the intolerable state that the Overunity forum was subjected to.

I don't have the remedy though Scott might.

You guys (and gals) are like my extended family. A group that shares an improbable notion. It has been fun up until now...
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Jim Williams wrote:James.Lindgaard

I've been here almost five years and I've yet to see anyone survive a lie. Rather, in my experience Bessler's Wheel has been a place of refuge from those whom would attempt to fool one into a belief of a runner, as time has time and again been all that is necessary for supposed runners to disappear. What is this jealousy of your success of which you speak? I don't fathom it. Success at a runner? What runner is that? I haven't seen one from you, or anybody else, including Bessler, for that matter. Without a runner, it can't be success at making the attempt at solving Bessler's wheel in itself, as everyone here has already had that experience. People are treating you like Bessler because of your success? Sorry, I don't get it.
Can you show where I said I had a runner ? What I have said is I will be building a design and it matches his description. This would be reason for others to be jealous.

edited to add; it is like unbalanced said, it was fun but then I said I was going to do a build.
Are you afraid bessler was a fraud ? Your quote " in my experience Bessler's Wheel has been a place of refuge from those whom would attempt to fool one into a belief of a runner, as time has time and again been all that is necessary for supposed runners to disappear".
Maybe that is why you guys discredit anyone who works towards understanding Bessler.
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Please look and contact Scott. Thanks

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