Unbalanced wrote:There exists the very real threat that this forum could be reduced to that of the intolerable state that the Overunity forum was subjected to.
IMO, it's not a 'very real' threat at all. A greater threat might be if Scott couldn't pay the bills. Of course we can all individually do something about that ;)
Crazed lunatics swinging by now and then is a repeating theme here. Come to think of it, it's a repeating theme everywhere :D
Ignoring seems the best remedy and failing that I'll just take a break.
There is real potential for serious collaboration here, provided by the internet, already I feel we are making inroads and with this amazing medium comes the pitfalls inherent to it.
My question was first about this success you have, particularly of which others are jealous, and not so much as to whether you have a runner. I can't see what this success is that is more than anyone else here. There are no known runners by anyone so far. So what is this success you have besides having that freedom to make an attempt everyone else already has?
I don't think Bessler was a fraud, yet I don't think he uncovered a successful wheel either. I don't think he knew he didn't know, which is not proof enough to me that he actually didn't know. You might consider if you succeed at what sounded like you're saying you will be able to duplicate Bessler's work, that rather than jealousy, you will create relief; and of course, celebrations.
Jim,
Between the builds I have done and the discssuions I have had with people those helped me to realize much.
I built Mt 37 in it's entirety. And I also did partial builds of other wheels to better study the mechanics.
And now ? I have always thought of how to buiild a better wheel if I ever thought I had solved Bessler's wheel. That time has come.
But like any puzzle, it takes trying to fit the pieces together to find a combination that works.
And with the build I will be doing, it will use in a way some of the mechanics of a pendulum clock. But it seems what is best about this is an ingenious solution he would have had to known about.
Give me a couple of months and we'll see how my build goes.
Jim,
Hans von Lieman came up with this understanding.
The 45 degrees above and below the level of the axle is the prime area of energy generation in an over balanced wheel.
In some of the builds I have done and in math I have anylized, I have focused on conservation of energy. After all, CF is the result of acceleration by the over balanced weight. This should be basic knowledge. As such, the value CF would equal m*v=f
If the vertical distance the weight falls, then the value differnce between CF*d=w would be less than m*v=f*d. In CF*d, d would be the distance of movement towards the center of the wheel. In CF*d, d would the distance coverd in the vertical drop. In m*v, the curvature of the wheel would increase the time necessary to gain the same force as if the weight had a straight vertical drop.
This would essiantially be the window of opportunity in an over balanced wheel. That is, if you can understand the math and how it relates to the mechanics and motion of the wheel.
As it has been said Ad Nauseum, you can't cheat the laws of physics. This means you need to know them in order to work with them.
Nah, must be that planet X thing playing havoc with the internet. BTW, anybody know if it's ok to retard a grandfather clock by moving the minute needle back a mite (obviously not on the hour or half hour points when the chime mech sets... Wouldn't want the thing to start chiming midnight at 3 in the morning. Some body warned me to only move the needles forward, and wait for the chimes to hapen at each hour and half hour. I think that's what he said, anyway...
Hmmm... my search for new unread posts sends me here to this thread, but then there are no new postings.
Morning Jim, that has happened to me a few times lately and I suspect it may be a function of a poster that is perhaps in your ignore list or something akin to this.
You were given good information. Only move the minute hand forward gently. Let it chime through all its chimes until you get to the appropriate time. On most of these clocks there's no worry if the chimes are not in sync with the time. [example: it is 2:00 but your clock chimes 5:00] It should correct itself within two hours. Simply wind the clock [key or weights depending on the clock] and start the pendulum. If it is fast this would be a good time to retard it a bit.
If have anything else to say to me, please don't use PM. As far as I'm concerned, Alan is a friend of mine and I don't doubt his reaction to you. Your PM confirms to me I don't wish anything private going on between us. Ironically I suppose, I live in a city where people in your situation tend to be welcome.You're not alone, but I don't wish to be alone with you.
Hmmm... my search for new unread posts sends me here to this thread, but then there are no new postings.
Morning Jim, that has happened to me a few times lately and I suspect it may be a function of a poster that is perhaps in your ignore list or something akin to this.
Yup! that is what it is, whenever you put someone on your ignore list you still get a hit that there is a message, When you open the thread there is nothing there.
Ralph,
I guess these last few posts show what you and your friends know.
Only negative comments.
It could be that you and your friends are not up to understanding the science that allows for perpetual behavior ?
It is quite possible that Bessler was familiar with I just tried discussing.
After all, he was 7 when Newton published his book and Liebniz who was a Dutch mathematician was doing his work. But you and your friends are probably ignorant about this aspect of history which is why you would ridicule me for not over looking it. Even if not, disregarding it is just as bad.
@ Jim W., as they say, birds of a feather flock together. Unfortunate for you and your friends, you are flightless, like turkeys :-)
After all, I am not like Alan. I will be having surgery for the 3rd time in 3 years. I have not known him to have surgery in the last few years. And considering I am still planning a build despite missing work and losing income. I am not sure why you would have a problem with someone that does not allow their medical problems to prevent them from making progress on something like this. And rlortie's group is about the only people who do not like me.
I thought this was Scott's forum but I guess ralph has taken ownership of it. I mean really, when has he ever posted any of his own work ?
And for those who say they are ignoring me, why are they bothering to post anything ? Do they have ADD or some attention deficit disorder ?
I would have to believe so.
edited to add; the description of this forum which is "A Bessler, gravity, free-energy free-for-all. Registered users can upload files, conduct polls, and more...""
Scott should change to; rlortie's build group, any who dares oppose them will suffer the consequences.............
edited to modify some statements for clarification.
